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Dave
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 03:43 pm |
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zippo wrote:
Dave wrote: Saw him and that war-hero Kerry on Meet The Press Sunday... Waz Joe defending Kerry ot again him? Lieberman was there supporting John McCain...
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zippo
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 03:20 pm |
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Dave wrote: Saw him and that war-hero Kerry on Meet The Press Sunday... Waz Joe defending Kerry ot again him?
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 01:12 pm |
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zippo
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 12:35 pm |
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the preacher wrote: and, absolute power corrupts absolutely...
we have had some good congressmen in the past, Livingstone, who resigned when it became known he had violated his marriage vows, (about the same time Pres Clinton was going through his interns, uh, troubles)
Fred Grandy the former actor from Love Boat
Fred Thompson,
Newt Gingrich,
and before anyone goes off on me for listing these, remember, this is an opinion, you are as entitled to disagree with it as much as I am to hold it.
RSDF
p.s., there are a lot of others, I am sure someone else knows names I do not remember, but these are the ones that come to mind, who got elected, did their job to the best of their ability, and then left.
Don't forget Joe Lieberman. The man has balls enough to defy his party for his princibles.
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 11:27 am |
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Yeah, I'm sure that we've had and possibly still have, some honorable people in Congress.
Unfortunately, they are over shadowed by the self-serving...
What can I say? I know there are those that will refute what Zippo posted. But, in the end, those people are responsible to do what we sent them to Washington to do. Nothing more, nothing less.
And they have failed.
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the preacher
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 12:23 am |
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and, absolute power corrupts absolutely...
we have had some good congressmen in the past, Livingstone, who resigned when it became known he had violated his marriage vows, (about the same time Pres Clinton was going through his interns, uh, troubles)
Fred Grandy the former actor from Love Boat
Fred Thompson,
Newt Gingrich,
and before anyone goes off on me for listing these, remember, this is an opinion, you are as entitled to disagree with it as much as I am to hold it.
RSDF
p.s., there are a lot of others, I am sure someone else knows names I do not remember, but these are the ones that come to mind, who got elected, did their job to the best of their ability, and then left.
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empty
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 12:14 am |
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jeffy ole boy wrote: the preacher wrote: yep, excellent read, and, having taught Government in a High School, it is all true, but in today's world, none of that matters, cause as we all know so well,
"it is all Bush's fault"
RSDF Party interesting! I never have personly understood why we elect folks that screw us in the arse.. Simply put, 'power corrupts'.
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 11:51 pm |
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the preacher wrote: yep, excellent read, and, having taught Government in a High School, it is all true, but in today's world, none of that matters, cause as we all know so well,
"it is all Bush's fault"
RSDF Party interesting! I never have personly understood why we elect folks that screw us in the arse..
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the preacher
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 10:30 pm |
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yep, excellent read, and, having taught Government in a High School, it is all true, but in today's world, none of that matters, cause as we all know so well,
"it is all Bush's fault"
RSDF
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zippo
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 09:21 pm |
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Worthy of your time and attention regardless of your Party Affiliation
545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.
You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall . No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.
It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair .
If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red .
If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .
If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way .
There are no unsolveable government problems.
Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses
provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees .
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.
What you do with this article now that you have read it is up to you, though you appear to have several choices.
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You can send this to everyone in your address book, and hope 'they' do something about it.
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You can agree to 'vote against' everyone that is currently in office, knowing that the process will take several years.
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You can decide to 'run for office' yourself and agree to do the job properly.
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Lastly, you can sit back and do nothing, or re-elect the current bunch.
YOU DECIDE, BUT AT LEAST SEND IT TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK, MAYBE SOMEONE IN THERE WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
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