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Babe
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Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 02:27 am |
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| Here they got hit 3 times in a row.....they planted, it got really cold ......they replanted.......it got hot n dry....replanted again.....and it flooded. Weird weird weather this year! Some only replanted twice....but quite a few three times, and gave up. This year will wipe an awful lot of the small family farms out.
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weasle
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Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 04:25 pm |
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babe dont feel to bad about the farmer,s , most of the one,s with any sense have crop ins. it still sucks that they got flooded , and the gov aint much help , but some how most people make it through these tragedies. 
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Babe
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Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 01:38 pm |
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| Figured you did Dave.....was just verifying...lol Spose I shoulda been griping in the soapbox area anywho...... I just feel bad for so many of the ppl who havent gotten any help.....especially the farmers. And when groceries skyrocket the farmers will get blamed yet again! *sigh*
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Dave
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Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 01:32 pm |
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I knew you were being sarcastic Babe, I wanted to put an extra emphasis on your point.
It goes back to my first post in this thread...
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Babe
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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 02:33 pm |
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Dave wrote: Babe wrote:
Vero Steve wrote: Vero is a small town the whole county is only 100,000 people.... The larger towns people pretty much did the same thing around here......helped each other....It was the same when I went out to Gulfport- Biloxi area after Katrina the white folk were working their asses off putting their lifes back together helping their neighbors. But New Orleans got all the attention and Mississippi was in alot worse condtion than New Orleans Its still nice to know there are good folks out there tho....huh? I guess the nice folks have to learn to sit on their butts and scream for help...huh? lol There's no doubt that good folks are still out there. They live all over the country. Every state has them.
I PRAY they NEVER "learn to sit on their butts and scream for help"
Unfortunately, the media tends to focus on the ones that make the most noise and draw the most attention.
Because that what sells advertising and gets ratings.
Those same good folks don't like to draw attention for the most part.
Talking about it would be like bragging "Oh lookie! This is what I did!"
They tend to be humble and hardworking.
Not looking for a handout, looking for a hand.
And more than willing to give one.
Not looking for praise.
Not looking for attention.
Not looking for a payment for their time, trouble or services.
They let the results speak for themselves.
Knowing that they "Did the right thing".
Exactly right....I was being sarcastic on the "sit on their butts n scream" comment....the story on the handicapped folks that FEMA "couldnt" help really got to me.....
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Dave
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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 11:35 am |
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Babe wrote:
Vero Steve wrote: Vero is a small town the whole county is only 100,000 people.... The larger towns people pretty much did the same thing around here......helped each other....It was the same when I went out to Gulfport- Biloxi area after Katrina the white folk were working their asses off putting their lifes back together helping their neighbors. But New Orleans got all the attention and Mississippi was in alot worse condtion than New Orleans Its still nice to know there are good folks out there tho....huh? I guess the nice folks have to learn to sit on their butts and scream for help...huh? lol There's no doubt that good folks are still out there. They live all over the country. Every state has them.
I PRAY they NEVER "learn to sit on their butts and scream for help"
Unfortunately, the media tends to focus on the ones that make the most noise and draw the most attention.
Because that what sells advertising and gets ratings.
Those same good folks don't like to draw attention for the most part.
Talking about it would be like bragging "Oh lookie! This is what I did!"
They tend to be humble and hardworking.
Not looking for a handout, looking for a hand.
And more than willing to give one.
Not looking for praise.
Not looking for attention.
Not looking for a payment for their time, trouble or services.
They let the results speak for themselves.
Knowing that they "Did the right thing".
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Babe
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 06:39 pm |
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Vero Steve wrote: Vero is a small town the whole county is only 100,000 people.... The larger towns people pretty much did the same thing around here......helped each other....It was the same when I went out to Gulfport- Biloxi area after Katrina the white folk were working their asses off putting their lifes back together helping their neighbors. But New Orleans got all the attention and Mississippi was in alot worse condtion than New Orleans Its still nice to know there are good folks out there tho....huh? I guess the nice folks have to learn to sit on their butts and scream for help...huh? lol
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Vero Steve
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 04:50 pm |
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| Vero is a small town the whole county is only 100,000 people.... The larger towns people pretty much did the same thing around here......helped each other....It was the same when I went out to Gulfport- Biloxi area after Katrina the white folk were working their asses off putting their lifes back together helping their neighbors. But New Orleans got all the attention and Mississippi was in alot worse condtion than New Orleans
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Babe
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 04:17 pm |
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| Steve...you have to.....but your in a more rural area?? or no? I always wonder about ppl in the bigger cities......ya know?
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Vero Steve
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 04:15 pm |
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Babe, Thats the only way most people around here survived after the hurricanes, neighbors helping neighbors. FEMA did zero for most of the people around here and then the insurance companies were not much better..........
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Babe
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 03:38 pm |
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Midwest folk tend to know better than to rely on the government......look at all the "help" the farmers have gotten...HA!
During a disaster...I am glad I live where I live.....the people here will pitch in and help each other out..!!
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Mikey
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 01:54 pm |
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Dave wrote: Vero Steve wrote:
I found that out after the hurricanes, we was the wrong color to get any help at all...... And the reason the goverment helps them so quickly is because if they don't then they become predators almost instantly and will prey on themselves or anybody that comes in range of them...........Plus the media always goes in their direction first.
Has the new media done a follow up on the people that left New Orleans and we sent to Utah, Iowa, Wisconsin and other states? I haven't seen but one and the lady had no intention of leaving Utah because she and her kids had a much better life, house and job in Salt Lake.........
You know thats kind of funny now that I think about it. All the times I have gone to help out after hurricanes and even when it happened in my town. I never saw a TV crew in a white area except to show all the destroyed boats. I wonder why that is???
Anybody even have a good guess????
Your statement "they become predators almost instantly and will prey on themselves or anybody that comes in range of them" says it all. Someone has to protect them from themselves...
We had folks that came here from the south that won't go back either. Better life, better opportunities...
I also don't remember hearing about the mid-west asking FEMA to do much. The local governments had things pretty much under control and were prepared. If I'm wrong, and I could be, I sure haven't heard anything to dispute it. FEMA made a big show of it..making sure we all knew there were here. Big Fuckin deal. Local PEOPLE have it handled..not the government. People help each other..thet Gov. just mucks it all up.
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 12:52 pm |
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Vero Steve wrote:
I found that out after the hurricanes, we was the wrong color to get any help at all...... And the reason the goverment helps them so quickly is because if they don't then they become predators almost instantly and will prey on themselves or anybody that comes in range of them...........Plus the media always goes in their direction first.
Has the new media done a follow up on the people that left New Orleans and we sent to Utah, Iowa, Wisconsin and other states? I haven't seen but one and the lady had no intention of leaving Utah because she and her kids had a much better life, house and job in Salt Lake.........
You know thats kind of funny now that I think about it. All the times I have gone to help out after hurricanes and even when it happened in my town. I never saw a TV crew in a white area except to show all the destroyed boats. I wonder why that is???
Anybody even have a good guess????
Your statement "they become predators almost instantly and will prey on themselves or anybody that comes in range of them" says it all. Someone has to protect them from themselves...
We had folks that came here from the south that won't go back either. Better life, better opportunities...
I also don't remember hearing about the mid-west asking FEMA to do much. The local governments had things pretty much under control and were prepared. If I'm wrong, and I could be, I sure haven't heard anything to dispute it.
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Vero Steve
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 12:34 pm |
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I found that out after the hurricanes, we was the wrong color to get any help at all...... And the reason the goverment helps them so quickly is because if they don't then they become predators almost instantly and will prey on themselves or anybody that comes in range of them...........Plus the media always goes in their direction first.
Has the new media done a follow up on the people that left New Orleans and we sent to Utah, Iowa, Wisconsin and other states? I haven't seen but one and the lady had no intention of leaving Utah because she and her kids had a much better life, house and job in Salt Lake.........
You know thats kind of funny now that I think about it. All the times I have gone to help out after hurricanes and even when it happened in my town. I never saw a TV crew in a white area except to show all the destroyed boats. I wonder why that is???
Anybody even have a good guess????
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weasle
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 12:29 pm |
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| kinda makes you wonder , when we had the floods here last spring , they said we didnt have enough damage for fema to come in , had to rely on local gov , and the red cross (ect). most of the people here who got flooded out pretty much had to rebuild on their own , although the gov did provide some loans , as the govner declared it a disaster zone .
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marc
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 11:29 am |
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Dave wrote: The answer is real simple, it sure ain't "Politically Correct". Because those folks ain't BLACK!
Gotta remember, Most folks in the Mid-West are very proud people. Very self-reliant and don't look for handouts too often... You hit the nail on the head...
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 10:22 am |
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The answer is real simple, it sure ain't "Politically Correct". Because those folks ain't BLACK!
Gotta remember, Most folks in the Mid-West are very proud people. Very self-reliant and don't look for handouts too often...
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Babe
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 03:22 am |
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Mikey wrote: For sure.....and Iowa is not alone. There are alot of honest hardworking folks put out by the mess all the water has created. Most have been left homeless..and guess what. If you didn't "Own" your home...tough shit to you. They won't help you get a new place. Why is that? ,Where are all the "Katrina" trailers??? Disabled or handicapped folks living in a group home that got devasted by the flooding..got kicked to the curb. They didn't "own" it..so too bad...and no help for the folks running the home.. A local church took these people in.......but it was a horribly sad story......FEMA wouldnt step in and help them! And I guess the pastor's daughter was getting married that weekend.....at the church......but they all managed quite well. FEMA? Yeah...right.
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Mikey
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 01:59 am |
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| For sure.....and Iowa is not alone. There are alot of honest hardworking folks put out by the mess all the water has created. Most have been left homeless..and guess what. If you didn't "Own" your home...tough shit to you. They won't help you get a new place. Why is that? ,Where are all the "Katrina" trailers??? Disabled or handicapped folks living in a group home that got devasted by the flooding..got kicked to the curb. They didn't "own" it..so too bad...and no help for the folks running the home..
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marc
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Posted: Thu Jun 26th, 2008 09:50 pm |
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| Well put/said...
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