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 Posted: Thu Mar 30th, 2006 12:49 am

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jeffy ole boy wrote: Interestingly enough my pal there working in NE Ohio got ahold of or his wife got ahold of a product line of bio-fuel tablets and works in conjunction with a networking money making plan.  He swears they work you place 2 tablets per 8 gallons of gas. Do that twice and then just 1 tablet per 8 gal. thereafter.  Supposed to get ya at least 25% better gas mileage and it also cleans out the complete fuel system.  They say only negatives are may have to change fuel filters after using....  I have only ran 1 tablet in my Jeep so far. Theres a meeting here locally tomorrow night on the product.  Will gather more info about it. Worth checking out in my opinion.
Question here is....what does it do to your engine in a few years?  Ppl have come up with ideas like these b4, and the oil companies seem to squash them right quick! 

ETHANOL.....people ......ETHANOL!!  Support your local farmers!!  CORN BURNERS!! 

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 11:05 pm

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zippo find it hard to feel sory for a company that makes 9% profit on a dollar invested . are ya makin 9 % on yer retirement investments ? im not .didnt the oil co. or energy companys get a investment  tax reduction from the texas idiot  , to develope alternate fuels ?? kinda like givin the key to the chicken coop to a fox . imho. dont mean to offend our texas members , with my comments about the presant regime.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 08:50 pm

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marc wrote: Vero Steve wrote: $2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63   Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................And then Die!!!!!!!!At these prices I'll take a look at anything that might help better fuel mileage.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 08:18 pm

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zippo wrote:
I am not sticking up for them, but I think certain politicans, for the sake of votes, do not really tell us the whole story.
Understatement of the century.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 08:07 pm

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Vero Steve wrote: $2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63   Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................
I know it seems wierd, but the profit dollars really don't mean much to the company or the stock holders, what does is the profit margin, the percentage of profit that come out of the these revenue dollars - the formula is (revenue - expenses)/ revenue).  These oil companies with billions in gross profit are really only making less than 9% because their overhead is so high, costs and R&D.  No, the exorbanant salaries paid to their execs really don't have that big of an impact.

Their profit margins are actually down from several years ago when prices were lower.  You know who makes several times the money that the oil companies do?  The fucking government does thru taxes.  I think I read where the taxes are five times as much as the profit for the oil companies.

I am not sticking up for them, but I think certain politicans, for the sake of votes, do not really tell us the whole story.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 07:14 pm

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empty wrote: jeffy ole boy wrote: I don't think it is..Buddy, that was a joke.   Magic pills that fix things should be taken in a very skeptic manner.I agree..  not a fool!   LOL

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 07:11 pm

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jeffy ole boy wrote: I don't think it is..Buddy, that was a joke.   Magic pills that fix things should be taken in a very skeptic manner.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 07:02 pm

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I don't think it is..

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 06:49 pm

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jeffy ole boy wrote: Interestingly enough my pal there working in NE Ohio got ahold of or his wife got ahold of a product line of bio-fuel tablets and works in conjunction with a networking money making plan.  He swears they work you place 2 tablets per 8 gallons of gas. Do that twice and then just 1 tablet per 8 gal. thereafter.  Supposed to get ya at least 25% better gas mileage and it also cleans out the complete fuel system.  They say only negatives are may have to change fuel filters after using....  I have only ran 1 tablet in my Jeep so far. Theres a meeting here locally tomorrow night on the product.  Will gather more info about it. Worth checking out in my opinion.Is it made by Amway?

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 06:34 pm

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Interestingly enough my pal there working in NE Ohio got ahold of or his wife got ahold of a product line of bio-fuel tablets and works in conjunction with a networking money making plan.  He swears they work you place 2 tablets per 8 gallons of gas. Do that twice and then just 1 tablet per 8 gal. thereafter.  Supposed to get ya at least 25% better gas mileage and it also cleans out the complete fuel system.  They say only negatives are may have to change fuel filters after using....  I have only ran 1 tablet in my Jeep so far. Theres a meeting here locally tomorrow night on the product.  Will gather more info about it. Worth checking out in my opinion.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 05:36 pm

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most of the gas here in ohio has 15 % ethanal , no ill effects on my car or truck , or bike. except the mpg drops a little from 100% gas. not good for older vehicles with metal gas tanks though.

 

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 03:08 pm

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They are killing us with this gas price crap. I say rejet to a super rich setting and start using ethanol in our bikes. This crap has got to end. A friend of mine is already working on making his own Ethanol. If it works, I'm going to copy his design and start making my own fuel. I know I can't run my car and truck on the stuff, but if I mix it right, I can safely use 15% in my vehicles. If I rejet the bike, I should be able to use E85.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 02:35 pm

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marc wrote: Vero Steve wrote: $2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63   Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................And then Die!!!!!!!!The dieing part would take the pain away,  can't be having that.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 02:33 pm

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Vero Steve wrote: $2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63   Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................And then Die!!!!!!!!

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 01:11 pm

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regular 2.25 yst morning , 2 .59 in the afternoon . WTF.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 11:24 am

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$2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63   Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................

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 Posted: Tue Mar 28th, 2006 11:16 pm

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Mexican gas prices.....

Regular is about $2.40 and Diesel is $2.15...Thought it would be less...

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 Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 03:32 pm

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Dave wrote: No problem Weasle...

Like I said, a Diesel has a narrow power band, like 1600 to 2200 rpm. So, the fuel flow doesn't change a lot.

Since it's a Ford and (I think) it has that PowerStroke engine in it, it should do pretty good on mileage and wear and tear. Those are supposed to be a real good engine...

By the way Zippo - Don't run that thing out of fuel. Old days, we had bleed the line going to each injector. Not as easy or forgiving as a gas engine...

Yeah, I am aware or at least was aware of that issue.  Many years ago, aboty 1976 I bought a VW Rabbit diesel, one of the first ones out, so I got some education on that issue.  BTW that was great little car (as long as you didn't mind a piss poor heater).  I had it in Michigan and the winter required some fuel treatment so it didn't gel, though most gas staions had an additive in the fuel already.  I sold it to my brother in law and he ended up getting hit and totaled it when it had 400K miles on it.  The only real mainteninace was new injectors.

 

This thing idles at 750 rpm and at 75 mph it is about 2000 rpm, so Dave is correct about a narrow power band.  That rpm (or spped) doesn't seem to change a bit with the cruise on and going up a pretty good hill on I-25 at 75mph.  We shall see what we shall see.  Pretty wise huh?

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 Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 02:19 pm

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No problem Weasle...

Like I said, a Diesel has a narrow power band, like 1600 to 2200 rpm. So, the fuel flow doesn't change a lot.

Since it's a Ford and (I think) it has that PowerStroke engine in it, it should do pretty good on mileage and wear and tear. Those are supposed to be a real good engine...

By the way Zippo - Don't run that thing out of fuel. Old days, we had bleed the line going to each injector. Not as easy or forgiving as a gas engine...

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 Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 02:06 pm

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thanks dave for explaining it , meby zippo wont suffer to much pulling his camper , fuel wise . was telling him my experiences pulling one with a gas motor.


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