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 Posted: Sat Nov 26th, 2005 05:00 pm

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Lawmakers Face Dilemma Over Katrina Relief

By DAVID HAMMER, Associated Press Writer

Lawmakers from states untouched by Hurricane Katrina face a conundrum — showing compassion toward the devastated Gulf Coast without breaking the bank and, at the same time, balancing disaster-relief needs in their own regions.

Congress has already approved two emergency budget packages totaling $62 billion for reconstruction and relief in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. But spending has slowed, and the White House wants some unspent funds to be returned and others to be moved to different projects.

Sen. Mary Landrieu (news, bio, voting record), D-La., says the Federal Emergency Management Agency is still sitting on more than half the money. She blames Republicans in Washington for not understanding the depth of Gulf Coast destruction and the federal government's responsibility to rebuild.

"This government needs to understand it can't protect the homeland on the cheap," Landrieu said.

Indiana Rep. John Hostettler (news, bio, voting record) knows about disasters, too — a tornado this month killed 23 people in his Evansville-area district. Still, the Republican was among 12 members of Congress to vote against emergency funding for Katrina in October.

Some lawmakers and economists say the expensive relief efforts have finally reminded Washington about fiscal responsibility.

It took three tries and a two-vote margin for Republicans to pass a House plan to cut the deficit by $50 billion by the end of the decade. The package still must be consolidated with the Senate's $35 billion plan, but neither is enough to offset the emergency spending on Katrina so far, and the Bush administration still wants tax cuts extended.

"Wasteful spending is wasteful spending. The Republicans need to return to their message that being compassionate is doing what it takes to implement a system that works," said Veronique de Rugy, economist for the conservative American Enterprise Institute and a Libertarian.

A lot of the conservative Republican voices on Katrina spending come from Ohio, where 11 of 12 GOP House members voted for cuts to education and health care programs.

Rep. Paul Gillmor (news, bio, voting record) estimates that deficit spending on hurricanes could rise to $200 billion and wants commensurate cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Fellow Ohio Reps. John Boehner, Steve Chabot and Jean Schmidt were among the original 15 House members to sign a "Katrina No Pork Pledge," a promise not to support items in emergency bills that are unrelated to Katrina.

But a presidential ban on "pork" in a Homeland Security bill didn't prevent $1 billion in peripheral spending, de Rugy said. And some members of Congress have different definitions of what's related to Katrina and what isn't.

Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., recently promised that after this fall's harvest, a future supplemental spending bill will include aid for farmers affected by drought or disasters, regardless of where they are.

In North Dakota, farmers felt the pinch of high fuel costs and the Port of New Orleans shutdown and recognize the need to rebuild infrastructure along the lower Mississippi River. But in 1997, Grand Forks had the largest flood evacuation in U.S. history before Katrina, and Dakotans are telling Sen. Kent Conrad (news, bio, voting record), senior Democrat on the Senate Budget Committee, that they have a few dike projects to fund back home.

Rep. David Hobson (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio, runs the House subcommittee that funds the Army Corps of Engineers, the agency responsible for the levee system that failed and let New Orleans fill like a soup bowl. Katrina was his rationale for adding $1 billion to the president's budget request for energy and water projects.

"Anything Congress spends beyond the president's request can be considered 'pork,'" de Rugy said.

Landrieu disagrees: "Clearly the Gulf Coast and our only energy coast is a priority, but I don't believe we have to sacrifice every other good civil works project around the country."

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 Posted: Sat Nov 26th, 2005 12:59 pm

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I say let them fry.....Hes been alive about 28 years too long...



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U.S. Prepares For 1,000th Execution Since 1976

WASHINGTON -- Robin Lovitt might make history next week.

If his execution goes as scheduled, he could be the 1,000th person executed in the U.S. since the ban against capital punishment was lifted in 1976.

Lovitt was convicted of stabbing a man to death with scissors during a pool hall robbery in Virginia.

Initial DNA tests of the scissors proved inconclusive. Later the scissors were thrown away, supposedly because of a lack of storage space.

One of his lawyers, Kenneth Starr, told Associated Press Television News he supports the death penalty in principle, but that it shouldn't apply in Lovitt's case, especially since there was "destruction of the DNA evidence."

Opponents of the death penalty said the number of prisoners whose convictions have been reversed should fuel skepticism.

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U.S. Prepares For 1,000th Execution Since 1976

WASHINGTON -- Robin Lovitt might make history next week.

If his execution goes as scheduled, he could be the 1,000th person executed in the U.S. since the ban against capital punishment was lifted in 1976.

Lovitt was convicted of stabbing a man to death with scissors during a pool hall robbery in Virginia.

Initial DNA tests of the scissors proved inconclusive. Later the scissors were thrown away, supposedly because of a lack of storage space.

One of his lawyers, Kenneth Starr, told Associated Press Television News he supports the death penalty in principle, but that it shouldn't apply in Lovitt's case, especially since there was "destruction of the DNA evidence."

Opponents of the death penalty said the number of prisoners whose convictions have been reversed should fuel skepticism.

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weasle wrote: yea i know she wont go into heat , but when jippo said that , it reminded me of that beagle.ahh geeze,guy makes one mistake in his life, and yer all over him.:?  sorry zippo , wasnt intentional. * farts in elevator full of bbs people* LMAO.

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Thats Bull Shit....If I were her father Iwould kill that bastard and plead temporary insanity...Under those circumstances I can't think of a jury that would convict him...

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Randy in Pensacola wrote: I just saw on Fox news that John Couy might be getting out of jail on a technacality.

He kidnaps, rapes and murders a 9 year old girl and they might have to set him free....

I think we sgould invite him to our Vtwinnbbs reunion.  I personally would love 15 minutes alone with him....
 Maybe we let Babe atke care of him with her gonad knife!

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I just saw on Fox news that John Couy might be getting out of jail on a technacality.

He kidnaps, rapes and murders a 9 year old girl and they might have to set him free....

I think we sgould invite him to our Vtwinnbbs reunion.  I personally would love 15 minutes alone with him....

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U.S. to end "catch and release" at Mexican border

By Bernd Debusmann

The United States is closing a legal loophole which has allowed tens of thousands of illegal immigrants to slip into the country and join the estimated 11 million undocumented foreigners already here.

Under long-standing procedure along the U.S. border with Mexico, illegal crossers of nationalities other than Mexican -- dubbed OTMs by the Border Patrol -- have been entitled to a hearing before an immigration judge before they could be deported.

Because of a severe shortage of space to hold them until the hearing, they were released after being fingerprinted and given a "notice to appear," a document stating they had agreed to show up at court at a certain date.

The notice serves as a travel document allowing its holder past Border Patrol checkpoints on the roads leading from the border to the interior. Most OTMs do not show up for their hearing and meld into the population.

Known as "catch and release," the practice has become part of an increasingly acrimonious debate over immigration policy and border security, an issue likely to loom large in Congress, next year's mid-term elections and the 2008 presidential poll.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said last month his department's aim was to "return every single entrant -- no exceptions" but gave no deadline. Mexicans are usually returned immediately -- and most of them try again, some within hours.

Along the border, agents say ending the practice will take time and depends on how quickly the government can build additional detention space told hold OTMs before they are sent to their home countries.

OTMs were a relatively minor problem until 2003, when word of the loophole spread and triggered a growing flood -- including thousands of Brazilians inspired by a popular soap opera, "America," whose sultry star plays an illegal immigrant who swam the Rio Grande and made good in the United States.

APPREHENSIONS SET RECORD IN 2005

According to Border Patrol statistics, apprehensions of OTMs tripled from fiscal 2003 to fiscal 2005, which ended in October, from 49,545 to 165,175. Brazilians made up the second-biggest group this year, after Hondurans and before people from El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua.

The Brazilian rush northwards highlighted the complex nature of international migration patterns. Apart from the lure of emulating soap opera stars, Brazilians were taking advantage of easy travel from Brazil to Mexico, which abolished visas for Brazilians in 2000 to promote tourism and business.

After flying into Mexican airports, the Brazilians would head north to cross over the river or the deserts further west.

Mexico re-introduced visas last month.

"Catch and release" is gradually being replaced by "Expedited Removal," a process which cuts out the hearing before an immigration judge and allows border patrol agents to decide whether an illegal crosser should be deported.

In one of the many quirks of the complicated U.S. immigration rules, someone who crosses illegally, manages to get 100 miles beyond the border and stay undetected for more than 14 days cannot be subjected to Expedited Removal and is entitled to make a case for staying on to a judge.

(In another immigration law oddity, Cubans who sail across the Straits of Florida and make it to land are entitled to stay while those caught at sea can be returned.)

First introduced in the Laredo sector of the southwestern border, Expedited Removal is now being expanded to the entire 1,951-mile international line.

Administration officials stress that faster deportations and tighter border controls alone are no solution to illegal immigration. "We are going to need more than just brute enforcement," Chertoff told the Senate Judiciary Committee recently.
President George W. Bush has been pushing a guest worker plan that would allow foreigners working in the U.S. illegally to get three-year visas, renewable once. After that, they would have to return to their home countries and apply for a new permit.
The Bush plan appeals to part of the president's support base -- employers who want cheap labor -- but falls short of the demands of conservatives who say that even with the additional measures now being implemented, border security is not nearly tight enough.

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zippo wrote: Babe wrote: weasle wrote: LOL zippo , weener dog is a girlie, had her transmission fixed when she was a pup. corse that dont always work , had a male beagle, huntin dog that was fixed, he got arrested twice in the same day for having sex with a neighbors dog , when i lived in town, and i got aressted for punching  a county dog warden in the nose for picking him up 2 hours after i bailed him out of the dog  pound. fortunatly they didnt lock us up in the same cell ,, for as he would have ended my life for interfearing  in his love life. but that dog could turn a rabbit in 50 yds , right into the shotgun. he was worth it . LOL.
Usually a female dog that is spayed, is "safe" and they dont go into heat anymore...so there is usually no intercourse occurances.  A male dog that has been nuetered, sometimes can be "unsafe" if they are done too young....becasue alot of times their lil gonads haven't dropped down all the way.  Also a male dog that is fixed, can still have intercourse, and can become attached to a female, that is in heat.....but he basically shoots blanks! 

So weasle....ya just simple had to tell them...its all good...he was just practicing!  LOL

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Can we PLEASE stop with the "losing the gonads" talk!  Makes me shiver and them crawl up inside me.
Uh huh...see?  Thats EXACTLY what happens to those lil puppies.....before they WACK 'em off!  hehe

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Mikey wrote: Babe wrote: weasle wrote: yea i know she wont go into heat , but when jippo said that , it reminded me of that beagle.Jippo.....hehe....I like that typo!  LOLFunny..weasle didn't look Mexican....:P Olla from Nuevo Mexico.  Yo carro Taco Bell!

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Babe wrote: weasle wrote: LOL zippo , weener dog is a girlie, had her transmission fixed when she was a pup. corse that dont always work , had a male beagle, huntin dog that was fixed, he got arrested twice in the same day for having sex with a neighbors dog , when i lived in town, and i got aressted for punching  a county dog warden in the nose for picking him up 2 hours after i bailed him out of the dog  pound. fortunatly they didnt lock us up in the same cell ,, for as he would have ended my life for interfearing  in his love life. but that dog could turn a rabbit in 50 yds , right into the shotgun. he was worth it . LOL.
Usually a female dog that is spayed, is "safe" and they dont go into heat anymore...so there is usually no intercourse occurances.  A male dog that has been nuetered, sometimes can be "unsafe" if they are done too young....becasue alot of times their lil gonads haven't dropped down all the way.  Also a male dog that is fixed, can still have intercourse, and can become attached to a female, that is in heat.....but he basically shoots blanks! 

So weasle....ya just simple had to tell them...its all good...he was just practicing!  LOL

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Can we PLEASE stop with the "losing the gonads" talk!  Makes me shiver and them crawl up inside me.

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Babe wrote: weasle wrote: yea i know she wont go into heat , but when jippo said that , it reminded me of that beagle.Jippo.....hehe....I like that typo!  LOLFunny..weasle didn't look Mexican....:P

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weasle wrote: yea i know she wont go into heat , but when jippo said that , it reminded me of that beagle.Jippo.....hehe....I like that typo!  LOL

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yea i know she wont go into heat , but when jippo said that , it reminded me of that beagle.

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weasle wrote: LOL zippo , weener dog is a girlie, had her transmission fixed when she was a pup. corse that dont always work , had a male beagle, huntin dog that was fixed, he got arrested twice in the same day for having sex with a neighbors dog , when i lived in town, and i got aressted for punching  a county dog warden in the nose for picking him up 2 hours after i bailed him out of the dog  pound. fortunatly they didnt lock us up in the same cell ,, for as he would have ended my life for interfearing  in his love life. but that dog could turn a rabbit in 50 yds , right into the shotgun. he was worth it . LOL.
Usually a female dog that is spayed, is "safe" and they dont go into heat anymore...so there is usually no intercourse occurances.  A male dog that has been nuetered, sometimes can be "unsafe" if they are done too young....becasue alot of times their lil gonads haven't dropped down all the way.  Also a male dog that is fixed, can still have intercourse, and can become attached to a female, that is in heat.....but he basically shoots blanks! 

So weasle....ya just simple had to tell them...its all good...he was just practicing!  LOL

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true story marc , his name was  BUCK.

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zippo wrote: Nah, just get him a couple of paper bags - one to cover her head and one for him in case hers falls off.ROTFLMAO....Love it....

Last edited on Wed Nov 23rd, 2005 12:24 am by marc

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LOL zippo , weener dog is a girlie, had her transmission fixed when she was a pup. corse that dont always work , had a male beagle, huntin dog that was fixed, he got arrested twice in the same day for having sex with a neighbors dog , when i lived in town, and i got aressted for punching  a county dog warden in the nose for picking him up 2 hours after i bailed him out of the dog  pound. fortunatly they didnt lock us up in the same cell ,, for as he would have ended my life for interfearing  in his love life. but that dog could turn a rabbit in 50 yds , right into the shotgun. he was worth it . LOL.

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weasle wrote: weener dog ever drug that ugly fricker home , have to shoot them both. that is a ugly sob.Nah, just get him a couple of paper bags - one to cover her head and one for him in case hers falls off.

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Thought that I something about "House Arrest". But, she still as to register as a "Sex Offender"...


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