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Babe
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 11:00 pm |
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Dave wrote: Zippo... You been in California lately? ROTFLMAO!
The robber is 27 to 35 years old, 5 feet 10 inches with a medium build, Hartford said.
27-35?......nope cant be Zippo...
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 08:27 pm |
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Zippo... You been in California lately? ROTFLMAO!
Police: 'Big Nose' Bandit Strikes Again
US Bank Robbery Might Be Work Of 'Big Nose' Bandit
POSTED: 11:22 am PDT October 21, 2005
LOS ANGELES -- A bank robbery in Corona del Mar was the work of the so-called "Big Nose" bandit, who is thought to have committed some 17 similar hold-ups in Southern California, police said Friday.
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The man entered the US Bank, 21181 Newport Coast Drive, just before 5 p.m., Thrusday and passed a demand note to a teller, said Newport Beach police Sgt. Bill Hartford.
He opened a black bag containing a pistol and was given an undisclosed amount of cash before getting away on foot, Hartford said.
The robber is nicknamed for his prominent nose, which, Hartford said, "everybody's of the opinion it's real."
He robbed a bank in Corona del Mar in July, Hartford said. Earlier, sheriff's representatives said the bandit is believed to have committed eight bank robberies in Orange County.
The robber is 27 to 35 years old, 5 feet 10 inches with a medium build, Hartford said.
Anyone with information was asked to contact the Newport Beach Police Department at (800) 550-6273, or the FBI at (714) 542-8825.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5145165/detail.html
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weasle
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 07:34 pm |
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| dave does this have any connection to that humpty - dumpty tragedy years ago ??? LMAO
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marc
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 05:55 pm |
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weasle wrote: hell im serving on call for jury duty right now in my county, figure it part of your duty as a citizen. I agree 100% Weasle.....I found it to be an interesting experience and frustrating at times but everyone should do it.....I served on Grand Jury last year and that was actually fun....
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 04:07 pm |
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It is a picture of the demise of a suicide jumper taken shortly after he landed. It shows him with his insides now on the outside. You will see the look of horror on the faces of the bystanders.
The faces of the bystanders is why I believe this is real.
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 02:37 pm |
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Elderly Man Drives Through Toll With Body Through Windshield
POSTED: 5:23 am PDT October 21, 2005
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- A 93-year-old Florida man apparently suffering from dementia probably won't face charges after running down a pedestrian and then driving with the man's body stuck through his windshield.
Police said Ralph Parker was eventually stopped at a toll booth on the Sunshine Skyway in St. Petersburg.
A spokesman for the state attorney's office said Parker didn't appear to know what happened or where he was. The victim has been identified as a 52-year-old man.
Parker's license was renewed in 2003. He had been living alone since his wife died in 1998.
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weasle
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 12:29 am |
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| lmao randy , never thought of it that way.
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Posted: Fri Oct 21st, 2005 12:15 am |
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weasle wrote:
hell im serving on call for jury duty right now in my county, figure it part of your duty as a citizen. but i aint rich like jackson , who probably figures he dont owe the country that allowed him to become rich anything.
I like jury duty....Its one of the only times I can go to a court house and not have to be in front of a judge....LOL
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weasle
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Posted: Thu Oct 20th, 2005 11:39 pm |
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| hell im serving on call for jury duty right now in my county, figure it part of your duty as a citizen. but i aint rich like jackson , who probably figures he dont owe the country that allowed him to become rich anything.
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marc
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Posted: Thu Oct 20th, 2005 07:53 pm |
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| Well...I guess nothing should surprise us anymore....I hope it's not a child molesting case....
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zippo
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Posted: Thu Oct 20th, 2005 07:30 pm |
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Dave wrote: Can ya believe this one?
Michael Jackson Called For Jury Service In Santa Barbara County
POSTED: 8:15 am PDT October 20, 2005
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. -- Michael Jackson has been summoned back to court -- as a juror.
Jackson received a jury summons at his Neverland Valley Ranch, four months after he was acquitted of child molestation charges.
It's unlikely that Jackson will show up for jury selection. His lawyers have filed paperwork for a deferment based on the fact that he now lives in Bahrain.
His former defense lawyer says Jackson is now "permanently living outside of the United States."
Jury Commissioner Gary Blair says Jackson likely will be excused from serving.
Blair said he summoned Ronald Reagan when he was president but granted him a deferment until he was out of office.
Actress Bo Derek, also a local resident, received at least two jury summonses and served on one panel without incident.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5132775/detail.html
In the middle east with his money, he can probably have a harem of little boys. He should have been made an eunich, the perv!
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Oct 20th, 2005 07:24 pm |
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Can ya believe this one?
Michael Jackson Called For Jury Service In Santa Barbara County
POSTED: 8:15 am PDT October 20, 2005
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. -- Michael Jackson has been summoned back to court -- as a juror.
Jackson received a jury summons at his Neverland Valley Ranch, four months after he was acquitted of child molestation charges.
It's unlikely that Jackson will show up for jury selection. His lawyers have filed paperwork for a deferment based on the fact that he now lives in Bahrain.
His former defense lawyer says Jackson is now "permanently living outside of the United States."
Jury Commissioner Gary Blair says Jackson likely will be excused from serving.
Blair said he summoned Ronald Reagan when he was president but granted him a deferment until he was out of office.
Actress Bo Derek, also a local resident, received at least two jury summonses and served on one panel without incident.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5132775/detail.html
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Posted: Tue Oct 18th, 2005 07:53 pm |
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From the Washington Post
The Undercover Lawman Who Went Hog Wild
By William Booth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, October 18, 2005; Page C01
LOS ANGELES -- It is fair to say that outlaw biker Donald "Red Dog" Jarvis is freaking the squares at his neighborhood Denny's, the moms and pops with their kids sitting at the nearby tables, suddenly just staring at their waffles and trying very hard to avoid eye contact with Jarvis as he explains why it would have been wrong to whack Billy Queen.
"We're not stupid people. We have rules, you know, we have . . ." -- Jarvis searches for the word -- "we have policies."
About killing? "Especially," Jarvis says.
Jarvis is built like a gladiator, straight out of C-Block, his arms crawling with tattoos, his eyebrow and lip pierced. He just doesn't seem like the kind of person you ask to lower his voice, especially when the former sergeant-at-arms of the San Fernando Valley Chapter of the Mongols, the notorious motorcycle gang, is talking about Queen, a subject that still seems to agitate him. "I was suspecting him of being a cop from the very beginning," Jarvis says. "I just knew it."
And as it turns out, Red Dog was right. William Queen was an undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). For two years, he burrowed in, almost as deep as you could go, becoming, as Queen puts it, "as bad as the baddest of the bad."
The lawman grew a castaway's beard, neglected his personal hygiene, rode stolen Harleys, got bombed in biker bars and brawled with Mongols named Lucifer and Bucket Head by his side. He not only hung with the Mongols, he also formally joined the club, first as a "prospect" (akin to a pledge in a fraternity from Hell) and then as a "full-patched" member, eventually rising through the ranks to be named his chapter's vice president.
The undercover operation, billed by ATF as its most successful penetration of a motorcycle gang, resulted in dozens of successful prosecutions of Mongol members -- for dealing drugs, stealing motorcycles and carrying firearms -- including Jarvis. He pleaded guilty to being a felon in possession of a gun and spent 30 months at a federal correctional institution, "the last 90 days," he offers, "in the hole," also known as administrative isolation. (No big deal, Jarvis says. "They'd pegged me as a shot-caller.")
It would not be unusual for an outlaw biker such as Red Dog (even one who now says he is reformed, has kicked his heroin habit, dates an accountant, listens to Air America talk radio and makes a middle-class living driving his own 18-wheeler) to dislike the cop who nailed him, especially an undercover agent and one whom many Mongols considered a blood brother -- until the day they were taken down, on May 19, 2000, in scores of raids in four states by more than 675 sheriff's deputies and ATF agents.
But this is L.A., babe, and so naturally this story just gets weirder.
While his former Mongol associates were still in prison, Queen retired from the ATF and published a book about his adventures called "Under and Alone: The True Story of the Undercover Agent Who Infiltrated America's Most Violent Outlaw Motorcycle Gang." It reached bestseller lists this summer.
The book describes the Mongols as the worst of the worst -- beer-breathed, meth-snorting, misogynist marauders who lived by a code of fierce loyalty to their brothers -- and to hell with the rest. Their motto: "Respect few, fear none." In the book, Queen's chief antagonist is none other than Red Dog.
Guess what? The Mongols dug the book, or at least parts of it. "I hear they were overjoyed," Queen says. "The more violent and hard and mean you call them, the happier they are." The subjects themselves are a bit less effusive. "The book was okay," concedes Richard "Rancid" Clayton, a talented tattoo artist and a Mongol who went down on gun charges. "But a lot of it was embellished or switched around or wrong." (Like him never showering, Rancid says: "We all took showers. They called me Rancid because I had a dirty mouth. He didn't know that.")
But wait: It gets better. While the book was still in draft form, Queen's agent showed it to a pair of screenwriters, who pitched the idea to Mel Gibson and his company, Icon Productions, whose last big feature was "The Passion of the Christ." Gibson bit, and Warner Bros. Pictures bought the rights and will distribute the film; Antoine Fuqua ("Training Day") is slated to direct.
The role of Billy Queen has not yet been cast (Gibson was initially going to star, though that now appears unlikely, according to Icon) nor have the actors who will play the gang members. But one thing appears certain: The real Mongols want in on the action and have been taking meetings with the filmmakers. They've been bitten by the bug.
The bikers say they will likely be employed as consultants and will probably end up in the movie as extras -- or possibly in more substantial roles. (Fuqua likes the real thing: In "Training Day," about a rogue Los Angeles cop played by Denzel Washington, Fuqua hired actors and extras from the talent agency called Suspect Entertainment, whose ranks are filled with former gangbangers.) "The movie people are going to use Mongols," Queen says. "And the Mongols are as jazzed as they can be."
"We want to use them," says Ned Zeman, a Vanity Fair correspondent who wrote the screenplay with his writing partner Daniel Barnz. "There's no reason not to. Only Mongols look like Mongols." Several of the bikers, fresh out of prison, have been offering their services and have sat down with Fuqua and the Icon producers. Zeman, who has met with some of them, says, "We thought the Mongols would be more reluctant, but they're not." Just the opposite: They're into it.
Ah, Hollywood, where yesterday's Most Wanted by the feds become tomorrow's Most Wanted by E! Some of the bikers are working on their own projects and have been seeking agents to represent them. From three years in the slammer to 15 minutes of fame. The Mongols don't mind being portrayed as violent and mean, Zeman says. "They said just don't make us look like wimps."
No worries. In his book, Queen describes the Mongols and their archrivals the Hells Angels as "sophisticated, calculating, extremely violent -- nothing less than the insidious new face of global organized crime." He also asserts that they have begun to resemble "international terrorist organizations." And clearly, when the ATF announced Queen's undercover work and the bureau's big bust of the Mongols, it wanted the public to feel relief that the fiends were off the streets.
But here's the rub: In both an interview and his book, Queen can't quite support the premise that the Mongols are al Qaeda on two wheels. During his time with them, Queen portrays the San Fernando Valley Chapter of the Mongols as down to its last half-dozen members (nationwide there were about 300), and overall the Mongols seem to spend most of their time drinking, fighting, drugging and riding their motorcycles. They don't really seem like a major threat to society -- unless a citizen goes to one of their bars and propositions one of their "old ladies."
True, they stole motorcycles and had a fondness for firearms -- including the odd machine gun. They dealt weed and speed, but it was nickel-and-dime, and mostly to feed their own appetites, which were hearty. One of the group was convicted on a murder charge, and at one point, members were allegedly planning to gang-rape a couple of strippers (the women, to Queen's great relief, never showed up). So they were bad men. But the government never did bring federal racketeering charges against them. An international cartel? In the San Fernando Valley Chapter, Queen -- whom they knew as Billy St. John -- was the only one who had a credit card (which he used to rent a truck for them).
"Billy Queen tries to make us seem worse than we are," Jarvis says. "Like we're domestic terrorists? Come on."
But there is no denying that Queen walked a dangerous line while undercover.
"What sets them apart is their penchant for violence," says Queen, who survived one knife fight and wicked bar brawls with the Mongols. "It's always there."
Queen, 55, is now a minor celebrity in law enforcement circles, and he regularly does the rubber-chicken convention circuit, regaling prosecutors and cops with his experiences. Although Queen is retired from the ATF, the feds still remain concerned about his safety and Queen himself is wary of retribution from the bikers or their associates -- so much so that he continues to live in an undisclosed location. When he met a reporter to talk about the Mongols and the movie, he picked him up at the Van Nuys airport in his small private plane and flew him to the outskirts of L.A. to have lunch at an airstrip. Queen brought along a briefcase. Inside? His .45. "Never leave home without it," he says.
For all the bad the Mongols do, Queen seems to like them. He grew up, he says, "in a not-so-great neighborhood" in North Carolina. His father chased moonshiners for the ATF. Young Billy boxed as a kid. A Special Forces Vietnam vet, Queen has spent his adult life in law enforcement, first as a city cop, then a Border Patrol officer, and finally an ATF agent. But he didn't like working cases from his cubicle and spent long periods as a street agent or undercover, infiltrating neo-Nazi skinheads, the Aryan Nation and the KKK, and culminating in his two years riding with the Mongols. He says that if he had tried to infiltrate NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, for example, "I'd be caught immediately." But the Mongols? Queen says it got him in touch with his inner Genghis Khan. "Where I feel like I can be as mean and as violent as anyone."
When relating his stories, Queen often enters a realm of role-playing, where his eyes get squinty and crazed, and he starts poking his finger in your chest and threatening you with a string of obscenities. It is disturbing in that he seems to be able to turn it on and off, like an actor, which in a sense he is.
To join the Mongols, Queen used a well-developed and deep undercover identity -- complete with an apartment, a borrowed Harley, a job, a phony driver's license, a back story and other agents to impersonate former employers or family members, because the Mongols hired a private investigator to check Queen out before inviting him to join. (He also had to fill out an application; it is, after all, a club, with a constitution, five commandments and a fight song, whose lyrics can't be printed here.)
Queen got his introduction to the Mongols through a woman, a 200-pound methamphetamine addict and confidential informant with a grudge against the gang who was looking for some payback. Over the next year, over many, many beers, Queen moved up in status from fellow barfly to "hang-around" to prospect and then to member.
As he recalls that time, he describes being the subject of constant challenge -- that he was either too weak to be a Mongol or he was a cop. "You have to be able to kill," he says, "in protection of the pack. That's their bottom line."
At one point, while on a rally to Laughlin, Nev. -- later the scene of a murderous rumble between Mongols and Angels that left threedead and the floor of Harrah's casino trashed -- Queen was challenged to snort a line of speed. As he describes it, the undercover agent was able to pretend to inhale the powder while he wiped it off the table onto the motel carpet.
Queen says he is often challenged on this point: How could he have ridden with these guys for so long and not committed any crimes, especially involving drugs? Luck and skill, Queen says. He'd beg off getting high, saying he was already drunk. He'd claim that since his chapter president was on parole and abstaining, then he, too, would forgo. Queen says that if his life was in danger, ATF rules would allow him to do the drugs but then consider it an on-the-job injury. He'd go to the hospital for treatment. And if he had done drugs and not told his supervisors? "I was subject to random drug testing like every other agent, and if I'd been caught, I'd be fired," he says. The ATF agent who worked most closely with Queen on the investigation did not return phone calls and ATF supervisors were not available for comment.
One of the themes in the book and in the screenplay is how seductive Queen found some of the Mongols and their lifestyle. In his telling, Queen smiles with the memory of a ride across California, with a hundred Mongols on motorcycles roaring down the road, running through traffic lights. "It's just an awesome scene," he says, "this show of raw power. Here are these guys who just scare the living crap out of everybody."
Queen was struck, too, by their friendship. When his mother dies, nobody in the ATF does a thing (and Queen uses the book to settle some scores with his supervisors, whom he considers gutless bureaucrats), but when his fellow Mongols hear of his loss, "they hug me. They tell me they love me. They were there."
"As time went by," Jarvis says, "Billy really got into the lifestyle."
Yet Queen says that if he had to do it all over again -- become a Mongol -- he would pass. His undercover investigation forced his ex-wife to relocate with his two young sons, who didn't understand why he was gone so long and looked so weird. The prosecutions were satisfying, Queen says. But most of the Mongols are out of prison and back on the street. And because of the book and the prospect of becoming movie stars, "they're bigger than ever," he says. "This thing has been like a recruitment tool."
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marc
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Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 10:11 pm |
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Carl wrote: Dave wrote:
This is some scary stuff here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9698139/
With all the forensic science, cameras, GPS gathering, "The Eschelon project" Cell phone cameras, ODB-II automotive reporting, Homeland security programs, X -ray, chemical sniffing, voice stress recording, and the several others I am not aware of.....ONLY an IDIOT would commit a crime. I agree...There are alot of idiots out there....
I feel guilty and I never do anything! I am experiencing the onset of delayed paranoia caused by the 60's and 70's.
There was a sex offender that abducted and murdered a young woman a couple years ago in northern minnesota. He was a catagory 3 sex offender, that was let loose to continue his perverted and homicidal activities. The woman he abducted had a cell phone with her. With signal trianglation the were able to come very close to locating her body. The location they calculated did put the phone in close proximity to the released sex offender. Through a little forensic analysis of the crime scene, they fortunatly were able to charge him. He crossed state lines during the course of his crime, so it is a federal case. What is sad, it has been a couple years, and we still feed, shelter, and protect that asshole, as he is not been to trial. There should have been an accident when the police got him...If ya know what I mean...
Crime will never go away with all the sophisticated monitoring and forensic capabilities, as the real hard core criminals don't care or cannot comprehend the tools used to fight crime. They will never be "scared straight" Which is why they should kill all of them...Think of all the $$ that woyld be saved...
Do babies at birth now have to be DNA profiled? Would not surprise me at all...
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Carl
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Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 09:26 pm |
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Dave wrote:
This is some scary stuff here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9698139/
With all the forensic science, cameras, GPS gathering, "The Eschelon project" Cell phone cameras, ODB-II automotive reporting, Homeland security programs, X -ray, chemical sniffing, voice stress recording, and the several others I am not aware of.....ONLY an IDIOT would commit a crime.
I feel guilty and I never do anything! I am experiencing the onset of delayed paranoia caused by the 60's and 70's.
There was a sex offender that abducted and murdered a young woman a couple years ago in northern minnesota. He was a catagory 3 sex offender, that was let loose to continue his perverted and homicidal activities. The woman he abducted had a cell phone with her. With signal trianglation the were able to come very close to locating her body. The location they calculated did put the phone in close proximity to the released sex offender. Through a little forensic analysis of the crime scene, they fortunatly were able to charge him. He crossed state lines during the course of his crime, so it is a federal case. What is sad, it has been a couple years, and we still feed, shelter, and protect that asshole, as he is not been to trial.
Crime will never go away with all the sophisticated monitoring and forensic capabilities, as the real hard core criminals don't care or cannot comprehend the tools used to fight crime. They will never be "scared straight"
Do babies at birth now have to be DNA profiled?
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Dave
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Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 02:58 pm |
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This is some scary stuff here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9698139/
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Carl
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Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 10:31 pm |
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Dave wrote:
Carl - We've had the cameras at the intersections here for a long, long time... Not sure how much good they do. There's always someone bitchin' about 'em. But, the various cities contract the installation and maintenance to private contractors that get a cut out of every ticket issued. So, there could be some credible complaints about "Conflict-Of-Interest" there...
Never been tagged with one of those tickets either...
Steve - No kidding... Three in a week is pretty bad. There was one in my old neighborhood about a month ago.
According to witnesses:
Cop was sitting at a "T" intersection and saw this Monte Carlo (in his mirrors) comin' down on him pretty hard. So, the cop waved his arms trying to get the driver's attention...
Car kept comin'
Turns on his red and blue lights, still hopin' to get the driver's attention...
Car kept comin'
Car took him out, killed him, put him out in the intersection. Car ended up getting T-boned by another car. Driver of car #1, DUI...
What I really don't understand on that one, why the cop didn't move. He saw the guy comin' down hard and fast. If he had the time to wave his arms and turn on his emergency lights, he had time to move his ass out of the way... Maybe not into the intersection. But, off to the side. That intersection he was sittin' at has 2 left-turn lanes and 1 right-turn lane. Seems like he woulda had time to do something...
I guess people paint ball the cameras
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Mikey
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Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 09:58 pm |
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Dave wrote: Can you believe this shit???? Talk about a paranoid POS...
Farrakhan: Levee May Have Been Bombed To Flood Black People
POSTED: 5:58 am PDT October 14, 2005
WASHINGTON -- Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said it's up to the government to prove that a levee wasn't bombed to flood poor black people out of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
Farrakhan said he's heard that military explosives may have been used to blow a hole in the levee, resulting in what he said would amount to "mass murder."
Quoting the Bible and the Quran, The Rev. Farrakhan said he suspects there was a government conspiracy behind the New Orleans flooding, but is confident that God will reveal the truth.
Farrakhan spoke at a Washington news conference in advance of Saturday's Millions More March on the National Mall. It comes 10 years after the "Million Man March."
The event will feature prominent social justice advocates, members of Congress, hip-hop artists, civil rights activists, media pundits, academics and business leaders. Muslim and Christian religious figures also will participate.
Farrakhan said you should think of the Millions More march as more of the start of a movement, rather than a single event. The Nation of Islam leader says he hopes the weekend gathering will be part of a long-range effort to give more power to minorities.
Farrakhan said blacks are tired of begging others to do what blacks should be doing for themselves. There will be one big difference between 1995 march and Saturday’s event. The first excluded women but at this one, women are welcomed.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5098327/detail.html Put the word "white" where you see red highlights...and the whole country will call you a "racist" in seconds....
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Mikey
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Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 09:55 pm |
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Farrakhan & his nation of Islam....all I see is a bunch of unemployed troublemakers all dressed up with bowties...
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weasle
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Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 09:34 pm |
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| sure you guys have heard this before , but the reason ferican can get a million man march is aint none of them working. yep marc he is a asshole.
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