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Dave
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Posted: Wed Dec 7th, 2005 12:07 am |
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Yup... I agree. I got a very similar story in email today. I started lookin' around and that's about as close as I could find to what the email said.
Still nice to see a politician that still has a sack that ain't been cut by the PC crowd...
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marc
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Posted: Wed Dec 7th, 2005 12:02 am |
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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 10:29 pm |
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I want to vote for that son of a bitch....I dont care what party he is in.........
How do we bring him over here???????
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zippo
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 09:47 pm |
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RIGHT FUCKING ON!
Can you just see one of our gutless wonder politicans saying some like that?
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 09:40 pm |
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This was published November 11, 2005. Would be nice if the US Politicians had the balls to make a stand like this...
Australia urges Islamic extremists to leave
By UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
CANBERRA, Australia -- An Australian official urged Islamic extremists to leave the country, saying there was no point living in a country under a system they oppose.
"There are some things Australia stands for, has always stood for, always will stand for, which will never change," Federal Treasurer Peter Costello said Friday on the television show "A Current Affair."
"We will never be an Islamic state. We will never observe Sharia law. ... We will always be a democracy."
Costello said people who were unhappy with that reality should leave Australia rather than try to change it, suggesting the problem might lie with the individual rather than the country. He encouraged people of dual nationality to go to their other country of citizenship if they disapproved of Australia.
Costello said the times were dangerous and terrorist threats might persist into the future, warning that "we as a community have to be on our guard."
http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051111-081341-6378r
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marc
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 07:51 pm |
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Babe wrote: Hopes ya all try that kinda crap with ABO's CAT!! uh huh! You would all get yer butts kicked! LOL
Yup...Beware of sniper cat....He is deadly.....LOL.....
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Babe
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 07:36 pm |
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Mikey wrote: Randy in Pensacola wrote: I didnt see the "Flaming Cat Toss"....Thats always my favorite.....LOL
The lil kittens make great muskie bait...LMAO
( I'm gonna get thumped in the head for that..so Ihope you all appreciate it..)
Hopes ya all try that kinda crap with ABO's CAT!! uh huh! You would all get yer butts kicked! LOL
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Mikey
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 07:34 pm |
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Randy in Pensacola wrote: I didnt see the "Flaming Cat Toss"....Thats always my favorite.....LOL
The lil kittens make great muskie bait...LMAO
( I'm gonna get thumped in the head for that..so Ihope you all appreciate it..)
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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 07:18 pm |
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| I didnt see the "Flaming Cat Toss"....Thats always my favorite.....LOL
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 07:03 pm |
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zippo wrote:
Mikey/Babe - some of your friends??
Wisconsin Divorced Men's Club Organizes First Ever Cat-Olympics
I got a few I could donate. Need to thin out the herd...
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Babe
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 06:59 pm |
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OMG Zippo...thats awful! LOL
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zippo
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 06:56 pm |
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Mikey/Babe - some of your friends??
Wisconsin Divorced Men's Club Organizes First Ever Cat-Olympics
By Mark Motz
Male tabby "Sparky" shows his stuff on the trebuchet competition, giving new meaning to the word "catapult."OSHKOSH, WI - The Oshkosh divorced men's rod, reel and gun club, recently squelched from passing a legal feral tabby hunting law in the state of Wisconsin, have shifted their misplaced passions and mad obsessions into the states, and the indeed the worlds, first Cat Olympics.
Divorced dad Elvis Weems elaborates :
"Well, they wouldn't let us hunt cats like we wanted, so we did the next best thing. We have over a dozen events planned this August in Oshkosh, including the tabby-hammer toss, cat fishing, cat-put, cat-a-pult and kitty-discus, to name a few! Should be exciting. We can get our rocks off in spite of the fact we can't hunt cats, so this is the next best thing!"
When prodded with the possibility that the divorced men’s sporting clubs vitriolic disdain of cats was merely a projection of their simmering hatred for their ex-wives onto the hapless felines, Weems fessed up
"He-he, you got that right. We like dogs. Dogs are sociable, sensitive and need the affections and approval of others to survive. Not cats! Damn things are detached, cold, impersonal and way too independent! Just like someone I used to know!"
No word is out how medals will be rewarded to the victorious contestants, but Weems promised "something in the size 12 EEE gilded chukka-boot category."
Red Green goes trollin' for tabby in the catfishing competition at nearby Wauhawkeechola lake. Green quips: "You can't catch catfish, or a cat for that matter, without the right bait!"
Billy Ray Cider exhibits rare form in the cat-put toss, sending "Fluffer Bunny" over 15 meters!
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 06:27 pm |
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This was actually in the news on Sunday...
Man Given Jaywalking Ticket After Being Hit By Car
POSTED: 5:41 am PST December 3, 2005
WASHINGTON -- A former secretary of the U.S. Commission on Fine Arts has gotten a $5 ticket for jaywalking even though, at the time, he was lying critically injured in the street after being hit by a car.
Police told The Washington Post that Charles Atherton, 73, was conscious when he was issued the ticket before being taken to the hospital Thursday night.
But witnesses report that Atherton was unresponsive and struggling to breathe.
They said he had been knocked out of his shoes and was bloody from hitting his head on the vehicle's windshield.
Police said Atherton received the ticket because he caused the accident by crossing busy Connecticut Avenue in the middle of the block.
Atherton's daughter said the story is puzzling since her father "always felt strongly about crossing at intersections," especially since a friend was killed crossing the same street.
And the follow-up story...
Man Ticketed For Jaywalking After Being Struck Dies
WASHINGTON -- A man who was ticketed for jaywalking after being struck by a car in Washington, D.C., has died.
Police said 73-year-old Charles Atherton, a renowned urban designer and former secretary of the U.S. Commission on Fine Arts, died at a Washington hospital over the weekend.
Witnesses said Atherton was badly injured and lying unresponsive at a busy intersection when an officer issued him the $5 ticket. A police spokesman told The Washington Post the ticket wouldn't have been written if the officer had known Atherton's injuries were life-threatening.
Over 40 years on the presidentially-appointed commission, Atherton contributed to the designs of countless monuments and projects, including the FDR Memorial, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and the National World War II Memorial.
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Dave
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Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2005 01:51 pm |
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Norco firefighter, two others shot during toy drive
NORCO, Calif. A Norco firefighter has been wounded along with two other men after shots were fired at a Christmas toy drive at a local bar.
Authorities believe the shootings may have been part of a fight between rival motorcycle clubs.
The firefighter was shot in the left thigh by what investigators believe was a stray bullet.
None of the injuries were life threatening, Riverside County Sheriff's spokesman Tim Brause said.
The Hessians motorcycle club had collected the toys Norco firefighters were picking up at a bar called Mavericks.
Investigators are still interviewing witnesses.NORCO, Calif. A Norco firefighter has been wounded along with two other men after shots were fired at a Christmas toy drive at a local bar.
Authorities believe the shootings may have been part of a fight between rival motorcycle clubs.
The firefighter was shot in the left thigh by what investigators believe was a stray bullet.
None of the injuries were life threatening, Riverside County Sheriff's spokesman Tim Brause said.
The Hessians motorcycle club had collected the toys Norco firefighters were picking up at a bar called Mavericks.
Investigators are still interviewing witnesses.
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Dave
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Posted: Sun Dec 4th, 2005 02:33 pm |
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Wikipedia and the nature of truth
By Charles Cooper
http://news.com.com/Wikipedia+and+the+nature+of+truth/2010-1025_3-5979331.html
Story last modified Fri Dec 02 04:00:00 PST 2005
Perhaps the most recognized application of open-source technology in the world, Wikipedia is the online encyclopedia that has become a research staple for millions of Web users.
Written collaboratively by volunteers, Wikipedia has become a smash success. The free site includes more than 845,000 articles in English alone and has won a loyal legion of fans. John Seigenthaler does not number among them.
In an op-ed published Thursday in USA Today, Seigenthaler wrote about his anguish after learning about a false Wikipedia entry that listed him as having been briefly suspected of involvement in the assassinations of both John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. The 78-year-old Seigenthaler--a former assistant attorney general working under Bobby Kennedy--got Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales to delete the defamatory information in October. Unfortunately, that was four months after the original posting.
Maybe this is part of the price that we're going to have to pay for the open approach where the system's very strength sometimes turns out to be its Achilles' heel: Somebody nursing a grudge can always pervert or airbrush the historical record. To be sure, it can happen in the so-called proprietary or for-profit world as well. The hope is that the collective wisdom of the cyberworld can police the system to catch the mistakes sooner rather than later.
Of course, Seigenthaler might have registered as a user with Wikipedia and corrected the article himself. Failing that, he could have posted comments to the article correcting the mistakes. The reality is that this is asking too much. We're talking about a 78-year-old guy who came of age when state-of-the-art was defined by 78 rpm records, tube radios and black-and-white televisions. And with so much stuff out there--and more getting created each day--was the burden on Seigenthaler to know he was the subject of a Wikipedia article? I'm sure his first question was, "What in the heck is a Wikipedia?"
For younger people, this is all second nature. Increasingly they rely--maybe exaggeratedly so--on the Internet for information. Purists may sniff at the elevation of Wikipedia to the rank of serious reference source. But that's what it has become for millions of people around the world.
On your ride home today, try pondering a future where Wikipedia's model of competing versions of the truth becomes the norm. Will the increasing influence of the wisdom of the crowd force us to rethink the nature of knowledge? With the proliferation of the Internet, more voices inevitably will become part of that conversation.
You can argue that epistemological revisionism goes on all the time. As a kid, I remember thumbing through a 1920s encyclopedia when I found a discussion of different racial categories. Someone reading the entry decades later would have found the assertions in that article to be nonsensical, if not borderline racist. But when the book was published, the people who might have corrected the record had no power over the publishing company printing up the product line. With the Internet, anyone with an online connection can chime in.
We're still settling into the new order, and the Seigenthaler episode highlights the challenge of fairly refereeing the debate. Ostensibly, the objective is truth. But questions about the nature of truth date back to Plato and Aristotle. It's a vexing argument that continues to the present day.
http://news.com.com/2102-1025_3-5979331.html?tag=st.util.print
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Dave
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Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2005 02:31 pm |
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Mikey wrote:
Dave wrote: Crawford, Texas -- A tragic flood this morning destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. The flood began in the presidential bathroom where the books were kept. Both of his books have been lost.
A presidential spokesman said the president was devastated, as he had almost finished coloring the second one. The White House tried to call FEMA but there was no answer. Thats not funny..thats where I keep my library..except for the volumes stacked up in the garage..LOL
You're right, the location ain't cool, I keep a collection there too. But, what they are were IS funny...LOL...
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Mikey
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Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2005 02:25 pm |
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Dave wrote: Crawford, Texas -- A tragic flood this morning destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. The flood began in the presidential bathroom where the books were kept. Both of his books have been lost.
A presidential spokesman said the president was devastated, as he had almost finished coloring the second one. The White House tried to call FEMA but there was no answer. Thats not funny..thats where I keep my library..except for the volumes stacked up in the garage..LOL
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marc
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Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2005 12:40 pm |
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| Could not flush all that shit he is full of...LOL...
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Dave
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Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2005 12:13 pm |
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Crawford, Texas -- A tragic flood this morning destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. The flood began in the presidential bathroom where the books were kept. Both of his books have been lost.
A presidential spokesman said the president was devastated, as he had almost finished coloring the second one. The White House tried to call FEMA but there was no answer. Last edited on Sat Dec 3rd, 2005 12:13 pm by Dave |
zippo
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Posted: Fri Dec 2nd, 2005 11:29 pm |
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This was in yesterday' Wall Street Journal. Funny I never saw a word about in in the NY Times
Our Troops Must Stay
By JOE LIEBERMAN
November 29, 2005; Page A18
I have just returned from my fourth trip to Iraq in the past 17 months and can report real progress there. More work needs to be done, of course, but the Iraqi people are in reach of a watershed transformation from the primitive, killing tyranny of Saddam to modern, self-governing, self-securing nationhood -- unless the great American military that has given them and us this unexpected opportunity is prematurely withdrawn.
Progress is visible and practical. In the Kurdish North, there is continuing security and growing prosperity. The primarily Shiite South remains largely free of terrorism, receives much more electric power and other public services than it did under Saddam, and is experiencing greater economic activity. The Sunni triangle, geographically defined by Baghdad to the east, Tikrit to the north and Ramadi to the west, is where most of the terrorist enemy attacks occur. And yet here, too, there is progress.
There are many more cars on the streets, satellite television dishes on the roofs, and literally millions more cell phones in Iraqi hands than before. All of that says the Iraqi economy is growing. And Sunni candidates are actively campaigning for seats in the National Assembly. People are working their way toward a functioning society and economy in the midst of a very brutal, inhumane, sustained terrorist war against the civilian population and the Iraqi and American military there to protect it.
It is a war between 27 million and 10,000; 27 million Iraqis who want to live lives of freedom, opportunity and prosperity and roughly 10,000 terrorists who are either Saddam revanchists, Iraqi Islamic extremists or al Qaeda foreign fighters who know their wretched causes will be set back if Iraq becomes free and modern. The terrorists are intent on stopping this by instigating a civil war to produce the chaos that will allow Iraq to replace Afghanistan as the base for their fanatical war-making. We are fighting on the side of the 27 million because the outcome of this war is critically important to the security and freedom of America. If the terrorists win, they will be emboldened to strike us directly again and to further undermine the growing stability and progress in the Middle East, which has long been a major American national and economic security priority.
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Before going to Iraq last week, I visited Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Israel has been the only genuine democracy in the region, but it is now getting some welcome company from the Iraqis and Palestinians who are in the midst of robust national legislative election campaigns, the Lebanese who have risen up in proud self-determination after the Hariri assassination to eject their Syrian occupiers (the Syrian- and Iranian-backed Hezbollah militias should be next), and the Kuwaitis, Egyptians and Saudis who have taken steps to open up their governments more broadly to their people. In my meeting with the thoughtful prime minister of Iraq, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, he declared with justifiable pride that his country now has the most open, democratic political system in the Arab world. He is right.
In the face of terrorist threats and escalating violence, eight million Iraqis voted for their interim national government in January, almost 10 million participated in the referendum on their new constitution in October, and even more than that are expected to vote in the elections for a full-term government on Dec. 15. Every time the 27 million Iraqis have been given the chance since Saddam was overthrown, they have voted for self-government and hope over the violence and hatred the 10,000 terrorists offer them. Most encouraging has been the behavior of the Sunni community, which, when disappointed by the proposed constitution, registered to vote and went to the polls instead of taking up arms and going to the streets. Last week, I was thrilled to see a vigorous political campaign, and a large number of independent television stations and newspapers covering it.
None of these remarkable changes would have happened without the coalition forces led by the U.S. And, I am convinced, almost all of the progress in Iraq and throughout the Middle East will be lost if those forces are withdrawn faster than the Iraqi military is capable of securing the country.
The leaders of Iraq's duly elected government understand this, and they asked me for reassurance about America's commitment. The question is whether the American people and enough of their representatives in Congress from both parties understand this. I am disappointed by Democrats who are more focused on how President Bush took America into the war in Iraq almost three years ago, and by Republicans who are more worried about whether the war will bring them down in next November's elections, than they are concerned about how we continue the progress in Iraq in the months and years ahead.
Here is an ironic finding I brought back from Iraq. While U.S. public opinion polls show serious declines in support for the war and increasing pessimism about how it will end, polls conducted by Iraqis for Iraqi universities show increasing optimism. Two-thirds say they are better off than they were under Saddam, and a resounding 82% are confident their lives in Iraq will be better a year from now than they are today. What a colossal mistake it would be for America's bipartisan political leadership to choose this moment in history to lose its will and, in the famous phrase, to seize defeat from the jaws of the coming victory.
The leaders of America's military and diplomatic forces in Iraq, Gen. George Casey and Ambassador Zal Khalilzad, have a clear and compelling vision of our mission there. It is to create the environment in which Iraqi democracy, security and prosperity can take hold and the Iraqis themselves can defend their political progress against those 10,000 terrorists who would take it from them.
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Does America have a good plan for doing this, a strategy for victory in Iraq? Yes we do. And it is important to make it clear to the American people that the plan has not remained stubbornly still but has changed over the years. Mistakes, some of them big, were made after Saddam was removed, and no one who supports the war should hesitate to admit that; but we have learned from those mistakes and, in characteristic American fashion, from what has worked and not worked on the ground. The administration's recent use of the banner "clear, hold and build" accurately describes the strategy as I saw it being implemented last week.
We are now embedding a core of coalition forces in every Iraqi fighting unit, which makes each unit more effective and acts as a multiplier of our forces. Progress in "clearing" and "holding" is being made. The Sixth Infantry Division of the Iraqi Security Forces now controls and polices more than one-third of Baghdad on its own. Coalition and Iraqi forces have together cleared the previously terrorist-controlled cities of Fallujah, Mosul and Tal Afar, and most of the border with Syria. Those areas are now being "held" secure by the Iraqi military themselves. Iraqi and coalition forces are jointly carrying out a mission to clear Ramadi, now the most dangerous city in Al-Anbar province at the west end of the Sunni Triangle.
Nationwide, American military leaders estimate that about one-third of the approximately 100,000 members of the Iraqi military are able to "lead the fight" themselves with logistical support from the U.S., and that that number should double by next year. If that happens, American military forces could begin a drawdown in numbers proportional to the increasing self-sufficiency of the Iraqi forces in 2006. If all goes well, I believe we can have a much smaller American military presence there by the end of 2006 or in 2007, but it is also likely that our presence will need to be significant in Iraq or nearby for years to come.
The economic reconstruction of Iraq has gone slower than it should have, and too much money has been wasted or stolen. Ambassador Khalilzad is now implementing reform that has worked in Afghanistan -- Provincial Reconstruction Teams, composed of American economic and political experts, working in partnership in each of Iraq's 18 provinces with its elected leadership, civil service and the private sector. That is the "build" part of the "clear, hold and build" strategy, and so is the work American and international teams are doing to professionalize national and provincial governmental agencies in Iraq.
These are new ideas that are working and changing the reality on the ground, which is undoubtedly why the Iraqi people are optimistic about their future -- and why the American people should be, too.
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I cannot say enough about the U.S. Army and Marines who are carrying most of the fight for us in Iraq. They are courageous, smart, effective, innovative, very honorable and very proud. After a Thanksgiving meal with a great group of Marines at Camp Fallujah in western Iraq, I asked their commander whether the morale of his troops had been hurt by the growing public dissent in America over the war in Iraq. His answer was insightful, instructive and inspirational: "I would guess that if the opposition and division at home go on a lot longer and get a lot deeper it might have some effect, but, Senator, my Marines are motivated by their devotion to each other and the cause, not by political debates."
Thank you, General. That is a powerful, needed message for the rest of America and its political leadership at this critical moment in our nation's history. Semper Fi.
Mr. Lieberman is a Democratic senator from Connecticut.
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