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Dave
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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 02:03 pm

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Here we go again...

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 02:51 am

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Bush has made no impact whatsoever. After all he's just the President and head of the Republican party. So what if they cut rich people's taxes and then spent more money than any governemt since WW2. The Dollar is now called the American Peso by much of the world. Mexico even owns some of our debt.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 1st, 2008 11:43 pm

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and, as we all know...

It is all Bush's fault...were someone else in charge, nothing would be wrong.

RSDF

p.s., just thought I would put that in here so no one else would have to waste time posting the obvious...lol

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 Posted: Fri Aug 1st, 2008 10:39 pm

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This news don't sound so good as far as jobs go....

http://www.forbes.com/markets/2008/08/01/unemployment-july-update-markets-economy-cx_mp_0801markets10.html

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 Posted: Fri Aug 1st, 2008 10:03 pm

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I nominate him for the Dumb Fuck of the year award...

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 Posted: Fri Aug 1st, 2008 05:34 pm

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Darwin strikes again...

Arkansas Man Dies Tampering With Electric Meter After Service Shut Off

Thursday, July 31, 2008

CONWAY, Ark. — A Conway-area man died from electrocution while he was using jumper cables to hook up power to his house after his electricity was shut off.

Authorities say 33-year-old Lonnie Montgomery was found dead Wednesday outside his home on Skunk Hollow Road. He was still clutching one end of a set of jumper cables. Officials say the other end was connected the electricity meter box.

Faulkner County sheriff's Lieutenant Matt Rice says it appears that Montgomery tampered with the meter box and a plastic cover installed by Entergy Arkansas after service was cut due to nonpayment.

Sheriff's Major Andy Shock says Montgomery was attempting to adjust or remove the jumper cables when he was electrocuted.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395663,00.html

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 Posted: Fri Aug 1st, 2008 12:20 pm

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First suspect, then victim: shooting said self-defense
By Lori Consalvo, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 07/30/2008 11:07:49 PM PDT

POMONA - In a span of two days, Brett Nichols went from being accused of attempted murder to becoming the victim in the same incident.

The 48-year-old Phillips Ranch resident was arrested Monday morning on suspicion of attempted murder. Police said he had shot a man and dumped the body in the hills near his home.

But Nichols was released from jail Wednesday afternoon after police determined he was acting in self-defense when he shot David Rotela, a 22-year-old Rosemead resident who survived the ordeal, authorities said.

"It was a dumb move for me to do that, to dump his body, but I didn't know what to do," said Nichols outside his Edgebrook Drive home.

Sgt. Robert Baker said "The (Los Angeles County district attorney) declined to prosecute for that incident."

"Nichols is no longer a suspect," Baker said.

According to Nichols, the shooting evolved from a home invasion robbery about 1:30 a.m. Monday.

Five people live in the house owned by Nichols, who said he was waiting for his girlfriend to come home when he heard a commotion in a bedroom.

He armed himself with a gun, "just in case something got out of hand," and went to find the source of the noise, Nichols said.

Nichols said he discovered a man holding a shotgun and wearing a ski mask who ordered him and three other residents to lie under a mattress.

Rotela and a second man took cell phones, cameras and car keys from the residents, authorities said.

As the men left the room, Nichols followed them. When Rotela got to the front door, he swung around and pointed his shotgun at Nichols.

Nichols fired at Rotela who then fell back onto the front walkway while the second man escaped with the stolen goods, authorities said.

Nichols, with a felony drug conviction from the 1990s and no license for the gun, said, "I thought, `A felon with a gun, this isn't good."'

He said he took Rotela and drove him to the hills adjacent to his home and left him there.

"He was paralyzed - he knew it. He said he didn't want to live like that, so I took him out and laid him under the stars like he wanted," Nichols said.

Afterward, Nichols said, he went to 7-Eleven to get a drink and cleaned his truck and the walkway of his house. He also cut out the blood stains from the carpet, leaving square holes, he said.

Police came to the house six hours later to talk to Nichols about a report of shots fired, and he led them to Rotela, who was still alive. Rotela was flown to Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center. He was listed in critical condition.

Baker said the the investigation is still ongoing, but Rotela could face charges.

Nichols said he had never had contact with Rotela before and did not intend to shoot him.

"I was protecting my home," he said. "If he hadn't turned on me, I probably wouldn't have shot him."

http://www.sgvtribune.com/ci_10050854?source=rss_viewed

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 Posted: Thu Jul 31st, 2008 06:06 pm

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US judge: White House aides can be subpoenaed

By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago

President Bush's top advisers are not immune from congressional subpoenas, a federal judge ruled Thursday in an unprecedented dispute between the two political branches.

Congressional Democrats called the ruling a ringing endorsement of the principle that nobody is above the law. They swiftly announced that the Bush officials who have defied their subpoenas, including Bush's former top adviser Karl Rove, must appear as part of a probe of whether the White House directed the firings of nine federal prosecutors. Democrats announced plans to open hearings at the height of election season.

The Bush administration was expected to appeal.

In his ruling, U.S. District Judge John Bates said there's no legal basis for Bush's argument and that his former legal counsel, Harriet Miers, must appear before Congress. If she wants to refuse to testify, he said, she must do so in person. The committee also has sought to force testimony from White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten.

"Harriet Miers is not immune from compelled congressional process; she is legally required to testify pursuant to a duly issued congressional subpoena," Bates wrote. He said that both Bolten and Miers must give Congress all nonprivileged documents related to the firings.

The ruling is a blow to the Bush administration's efforts to bolster the power of the executive branch at the expense of the legislative branch. Disputes over congressional subpoenas are normally resolved through political compromise, not through the court system. Had Bush prevailed, it would have dramatically weakened congressional authority in oversight investigations.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., called it "very good news for anyone who believes in the Constitution of the United States and the separation of powers, and checks and balances" and said the ruling applies as well to Rove, who like Miers and Bolten has been cited by the Judiciary Committee for contempt.

"This decision should send a clear signal to the Bush administration that it must cooperate fully with Congress and that former administration officials Harriet Miers and Karl Rove must testify before Congress," Pelosi said.

White House spokesman Tony Fratto and Justice Department spokesman Peter Carr said they were reviewing the opinion and declined immediate comment.

The House Judiciary Committee's senior Republican, Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, said he was pleased the court ruled in Congress' favor, but he cautioned that an ongoing showdown in federal court could ultimately curtail Congress' powers, and he urged Democrats and the White House to strike an agreement.

"Unfortunately, today's victory may be short-lived," Smith said in a statement. "If the administration appeals the ruling, our congressional prerogatives will once again be put at risk."

The chairmen of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees quickly demanded that the White House officials subpoenaed appear before their panels.

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, signaled that hearings would commence in September on the controversy that scandalized the Justice Department and led to the resignation of a longtime presidential confidant, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

"We look forward to the White House complying with this ruling and to scheduling future hearings with Ms. Miers and other witnesses who have relied on such claims," Conyers said in a statement. "We hope that the defendants will accept this decision and expect that we will receive relevant documents and call Ms. Miers to testify in September."

"I look forward to working with the White House and the Justice Department to coordinate the long overdue appearances," said Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.

Bates, who was appointed to the bench by Bush, issued a 93-page opinion that strongly rejected the administration's legal arguments. He noted that the executive branch could not point to a single case in which courts held that White House aides were immune from congressional subpoenas.

"That simple yet critical fact bears repeating: the asserted absolute immunity claim here is entirely unsupported by existing case law," Bates wrote.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 31st, 2008 02:20 pm

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Exxon has record profit again on soaring oil prices

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Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) said on Thursday soaring oil prices pushed its second-quarter earnings up 14 percent, again breaking its own record for the highest-ever profit by a U.S. company.

Net income in the quarter rose to $11.68 billion, or $2.22 a share, from $10.26 billion, or $1.83 a share, last year.

Exxon -- the world's largest publicly traded company -- previously set the high-water mark for quarterly earnings in the fourth quarter of last year, when it brought in $11.66 billion.

Despite the new record, Exxon's results lagged behind analyst expectations.

The company posted operating earnings of $2.27 a share in the quarter, which exclude a $290 million charge related to the recent Supreme Court ruling in the Exxon Valdez case. Analysts, on average, had expected the company to earn $2.53 a share, according to Reuters Estimates.

Revenue in the quarter rose about 40 percent to $138.07 billion.

Exxon both produces oil and refines it to make gasoline, and profit margins for gasoline were weak during the quarter, holding back earnings slightly.

The company said earnings from its exploration and production business rose about 68 percent to $10.01 billion. But its refining and marketing earnings fell about 54 percent to $1.56 billion.

U.S. oil prices averaged slightly less than $125 a barrel in the quarter, nearly double prices from a year earlier. Gasoline prices only rose 25 percent during that same period, resulting in weak profit margins for the fuel.

Shares of Exxon Mobil fell 2.2 percent in pre-market trade after its earnings were announced. Through Wednesday's close, they were down about 10 percent this year, underperforming the Chicago Board Options Exchange's oil index (.OIX), which has fallen about 5.2 percent over the same period.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 31st, 2008 01:42 pm

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Vero Steve wrote:
Randy in Pensacola wrote: damn, crime is that slow that they gotta shoot each other now? LMAO


Well they can't use the black targets anymore some maybe its a new form of firearms training......LOL

I'm just trying to figure out why an LAPD cop was walking around Long Beach with his gun drawn???
It turns out, the guy was carrying a shotgun. Supposedly, he pointed it at the Long Beach cop and got shot for it...

The whole story on this one is sorta sketchy...

And they can't shoot blacks for sport anymore. Too much of that seems to have happened here lately. Lots of noise in the local press. So, yeah, I guess they gotta start shootin' each other now...LOL

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Randy in Pensacola wrote: damn, crime is that slow that they gotta shoot each other now?   LMAO
 

Well they can't use the black targets anymore some maybe its a new form of firearms training......LOL

I'm just trying to figure out why an LAPD cop was walking around Long Beach with his gun drawn???

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damn, crime is that slow that they gotta shoot each other now?   LMAO

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Police: LAPD Officer Shot By Long Beach Police

POSTED: 8:20 am PDT July 30, 2008
UPDATED: 6:01 pm PDT July 30, 2008

LONG BEACH, Calif. --
The Los Angeles Police Department confirmed Wednesday that one of its officers was shot and wounded by Long Beach police.

LAPD Officer Sam Park said the officer was shot early Wednesday in Long Beach. The wounded officer was identified as 26-year-old Jason Geggie, a Long Beach resident.

The Long Beach Police Department said the wounded officer is in stable condition.

The Long Beach department said the 26-year-old man was shot at 12:30 a.m. after officers responded to a call of a man walking on the street with a firearm. The reporting party said the man was brandishing a firearm near Termino Avenue and 4th Street.

"Officers responded to a report of a man walking down the street with a firearm," said Zapalski, speaking from the scene of the shooting. "They contacted the man and an officer-involved shooting occurred."

The shooting occurred in the 200 block of Mira Mar Avenue. Geggie was shot in the arm and torso, according to a news release from the Long Beach Police Department.

Geggie was booked for "exhibiting a firearm in the presence of a police officer in a threatening manner" and "exhibiting a firearm at any person in a threatening manner," according to the news release.

Long Beach police said in a news release that their department and the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office are conducting investigations.

Long Beach police will conduct a criminal investigation, according to the release. The LAPD will conduct an administrative investigation, according to the release.

The department did not release the name of the officer who fired on Geggie.

http://www.knbc.com/news/17037559/detail.html?dl=mainclick

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marc:
Thanks. By the way, that was not a rant, it was an answer.
RSDF

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the preacher wrote: marc: serious question, not looking to start a discussion, but why do you dislike Bush so much?

Like I said, not wanting to start a discussion, just wondered what the motive/thinking is behind all this hate.

thanks,
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It is not that I hate him...I have no respect for him and resent what has happened to this country under his watch or his administration...Granted, it is not all his fault but he is supposedly the Commander & Chief and the bottom line stops with him as he said not to long ago...His primary job is to take care of the USA which I believe he has failed miserably at...Just look at where we were before he came into office and where we are now...Just look at our debt, the economy, his spending policies, foreign aid...My biggest issue is the economy, immigration and that he got us involved in a war that we had no business getting involved in...JMHO...This war is killing us financially and spiritually...Just look at the billions that have been wasted on Iraq...Look at all the soldiers that have been killed...For what? And when they come home we don't even take care of them...Those billions should have been spent here in the USA to help Americans...I do not mean to sound selfish but I do not care about Pakistan, the Sudan and those other countries...It is their problem let them deal with it...It is a dog eat dog world and the strong survive...Times have changed...We can't save the world as much as we would like to but we should do whatever the hell we can to save the USA...After we take care of the USA we could help pro USA countries...

I could go on but I will stop ranting...

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 Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 11:59 pm

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The constitution gave congress control of the purse strings and so far neither party has shown any restraint in the last 10 years.

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marc: serious question, not looking to start a discussion, but why do you dislike Bush so much? Maybe I am stupid, but I cannot figure out why he is hated so much. Everything I hear him blamed for, he cannot do by himself, the Executive Branch doesn't have that much power. He fired judges, he gets in hot water, Clinton fired judges, thats one of his perks. Clinton DID lie, under oath, but Bush is the big liar. I just don't get it.

Like I said, not wanting to start a discussion, just wondered what the motive/thinking is behind all this hate.

thanks,
RSDF

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 Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:01 pm

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jeffy ole boy wrote: Shoot I thought everybody loved George Bush........;)Especially me...LOL...

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 Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 06:55 pm

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Shoot I thought everybody loved George Bush........;)

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 Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 05:18 pm

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'Bush hater' and 'fact manipulator'

No shit?


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