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the preacher
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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 11:56 pm

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Thanks, but no, I will pass. I am not interested in anything Darwinian, Muslim, UK, or Dem.
but thanks for thinking of me.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 11:05 pm

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Well Preacher, since you mentioned the UK and sharia law, this video should be to your liking. I think it cut to the core of the debate, enjoy.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5F5aCUNE4Z8

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 10:00 pm

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OK, got it. We were talking about oil and the dems, and a post about Darwin fits right in there...like I said, I got it?

RSDF

addendum: I'm sorry, I didn't realize the article was from the United Kingdom, home of universal health care, sharia (sp?) law, bending to muslims so they won't be offended, and a myriad of other wonderful things that America should absolutely and whole-heartedly follow as the example of a perfect society. My error....ROFLMBO

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 09:49 pm

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the preacher wrote: Fritz, and the point is????

This falls under the heading "in today's news" I found it refreshing and thought I'd share.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 08:29 pm

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Dave: yeah, I know...by not having any oil to change it with, or gas to ride it, even if I do pump up my tires along with everyone else, therefore stopping the problem of not enough supply...(hey, don't blame me, that is what he said, to make sure my tires were correctly inflated so I wouldn't be wasting gas)

boy, cannot WAIT until November when the Obama followers get what they want. Of course for at LEAST 2 years, (which is about the time, hopefully it will take folks to wake up and elect a republican congress to control this moron) we will still here the faithful anthem

"It's Bush's Fault" ad nauseum

RSDF

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 08:25 pm

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Fritz, and the point is????

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 08:10 pm

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Must be frustrating being a scientist. There you are, incrementally discovering how the universe works via a series of complex tests and experiments, for the benefit of all mankind - and what thanks do you get? People call you "egghead" or "boffin" or "heretic", and they cave your face in with a rock and bury you out in the wilderness.

Not literally - not in this day and age - but you get the idea. Scientists are mistrusted by huge swathes of the general public, who see them as emotionless lab-coated meddlers-with-nature rather than, say, fellow human beings who've actually bothered getting off their arses to work this shit out. The wariness stems from three popular misconceptions:

1) Scientists want to fill our world with chemicals and killer robots; 2) They don't appreciate the raw beauty of nature, maaan; and

3) They're always spoiling our fun, pointing out homeopathy doesn't work or ghosts don't exist EVEN THOUGH they KNOW we REALLY, REALLY want to believe in them.

That last delusion is the most insidious. Science is like a good friend: sometimes it tells you things you don't want to hear. It tells you the truth. And we all know how much that can hurt, don't we, fatso?

Many people find bald, unvarnished truths so disturbing, they prefer to ram their heads in the sand and start dreaming at the first sign of scientific reality. The more contrary evidence mounts up, the harder they'll ignore it. And even the greatest, most widely-admired scientists can provoke this reaction. Take Darwin. Or rather, take The Genius Of Darwin (Mon, 8pm, C4), the latest documentary from professional God-hatin' Professor Yaffle impersonator Richard Dawkins, which sets out to calmly and lucidly explain a) Why Darwin was so ace, and b) Just how much evidence there is to support his findings.

Darwin's theory of evolution was simple, beautiful, majestic and awe-inspiring. But because it contradicts the allegorical babblings of a bunch of made-up old books, it's been under attack since day one. That's just tough luck for Darwin. If the Bible had contained a passage that claimed gravity is caused by God pulling objects toward the ground with magic invisible threads, we'd still be debating Newton with idiots too.

Since Darwin's death, Dawkins points out, the evidence confirming his discovery has piled up and up and up, many thousand feet above the point of dispute. And yet heroically, many still dispute it. They're like couch potatoes watching Finding Nemo on DVD who've suffered some kind of brain haemorrhage which has led them to believe the story they're watching is real, that their screen is filled with water and talking fish, and that that's all there is to reality - just them and that screen and Nemo - and when you run into the room and point out the DVD player and the cables connecting it to the screen, and you open the windows and point outside and describe how overwhelming the real world is - when you do all that, it only spooks them. So they go on believing in Nemo, with gritted teeth if necessary.

What was it that spooked them so? Probably natural selection's lack of reassuring narrative. It lays the ruthless, godless world pretty bloody bare. As Dawkins says: "The total amount of suffering in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute it takes me to say these words, thousands of animals are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, feeling teeth sink into their throats. Thousands are dying from starvation or disease or feeling a parasite rasping away from within. There is no central authority; no safety net. For most animals the reality of life is struggling, suffering and death."

Woo-hoo! Compare and contrast with the plot of Finding Nemo and it's easy to understand why people would rather believe in the purdy singing clown fish. But this is our reality, people. Like the man says, there's no safety net - so since we're all in this together, we'll have to make our own. And we can't do that with our eyes and minds shut now, can we?

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 07:46 pm

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But Preacher, Obama wants to help make your oil changes cheaper...

Obama Alters Offshore Drilling Position
Senator Doesn't Want Washington To Get Gridlocked Over Energy


POSTED: 4:42 pm PDT August 1, 2008

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- Sen. Barack Obama is modifying his position on offshore drilling.

He now says he'd support limited additional offshore oil drilling if that's what it takes to pass a comprehensive energy policy. Obama said that policy should foster fuel-efficient cars and develop alternate energy sources.

Obama said he doesn't want Washington to get gridlocked over energy, nor does he want to be so rigid "that we can't get something done."

Recently, Sen. John McCain has been criticizing Obama for opposing more offshore oil drilling as gasoline prices rose past $4 a gallon. Polls show that's helped McCain gain ground.

http://www.knbc.com/politics/17068226/detail.html?dl=mainclick

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 07:16 pm

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Weasle: nope, no mistake...HD oil, 60 weight, 7 bucks a quart...2 months ago, I paid 5.15 a quart. Ain't got nothin to do with me hanging out at a rice shop, it's all Bush's fault...ask anyone...
RSDF

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 07:13 pm

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empty wrote: Synthetic is better than dyno.   :cool::D:D:D

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 06:36 pm

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Think I paid about $4.00 a quart for RevTech dino...

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 06:30 pm

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7 bucks a quart for straight 50 weight preacher ?? bought some 20-50 and a filter  couple mounths ago  dont rember it  bein much over  meby 25 bucks for everything ?? i know whats wrong , that  rice shop yer hanging at is over chargin ya. LMAO. :D. or else like ya said its bush,s fault .:P

Last edited on Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 06:32 pm by weasle

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 05:02 pm

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I can't afford synthetic...then again, since HD Dino just hit 7 bucks a quart, I can't afford that either...maybe I should sell the bike for carbon credits so Gore has enough money to fill his SUV's?

ROFL

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 03:51 pm

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empty wrote:
Synthetic is better than dyno. :cool:Usin' it in the trans, feels like it shift easier...;)

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 03:47 pm

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Synthetic is better than dyno.   :cool:

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From our local paper

 

Mountain Home:

No matter what, a lie's still a lie

In response to B.J. Brown's July 26 criticism of Mr. Edsel Inberg's July 12 letter wherein he called George W. Bush a liar, I have a few words to add.

The dictionary defines the word "lie" as making a statement that one knows to be false. The only reason to lie is to deliberately mislead others, to steer them away from the truth because they have a personal agenda to protect. The Bible tells us in John 14:6 that Jesus Christ himself is the way, the truth and the life, and no one can come to the Father except through him — through truth.

Therefore, by my reasoning, there can be no "good lies." Truth, like Christ, cannot be bartered, spun or changed in any way. Truth is truth, nothing less. The more it is hidden, the more it will be revealed. Also, read John 3:19-21.

I agree with Mr. Inberg that we were deliberately led into war in Iraq. There is just too much evidence to dispute that fact. Big Oil (Exxon-Mobil, Texaco, BP and others) are over there now negotiating no-bid contracts for Iraqi oil. That is the reason this current administration is anxiously pushing Iraq officials to allow permanent American bases there. America's sons and daughters will have to "guard our interests," of course.

And, by the way, I heard Wolf Blitzer report on CNN recently that the White House is offering lobbyists a one-on-one meeting with either Secretary Rice or the other "Big Oil" guy, Dick Cheney, for a $200,000 or $250,000 donation to W's "lie-brary" planned to be built down there in Dallas.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 03:24 pm

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Same is going to happen in New York real soon...Wall Street is not making the $$ it use to and that is where a lot of NY's tax $$ comes from...There even talking about selling/leasing part of the road system to private enterprise...

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Hey Preacher, guess that pretty much explains how your life is getting better with Democrats in control.

And Pelosi has a big enough sack to call Bush a loser...

Did I mention that Arnold is in deep shit with the people here in California? He layed off 22,000 state employees because we don't have a budget? It's only about 6-weeks over-due.

Guess where our state legislators are?

On Vacation!!! They'll be back next week!

But, Arnold is the bad guy...

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 Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 02:41 pm

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Dave:
Yep, let us never forget the "tax cuts for the rich" BS, and the fact that everything that has happened, including Katrina, is Bush's fault...
then again, what else have they got? Can't blame anything on Congress, their 9% approval rating is not their fault, they inherited it from Bush and his Republicans..

I guess the Republicans are the reason the Dems turned the lights out and went home for a 5 week vacation in the middle of a debate yesterday about how to help with oil prices too, huh?
Oh, well,
pretty soon we will have a no experience, not qualified, 143 day senator who is basically a socialist in charge, and I am sure everything will get better immediately...and he will have 4 years to blame Bush for everything...

ROFLMBO

Hey Dave...did I tell you my Blue Cross just went up almost 100.00? Was 316.00 a month, now 406.00. ( I guess I am the filthy rich who can afford my own insurance, last year with 2 jobs, I made 28K) So I deserve the increase, right? The paperwork said, quote, "The increase is not due to your usage, but due to medical costs incurred by those who do not have insurance"..
yep, I think I win, I got the first taste of Universal Health Care...as they say, where "those who have, are going to have to give up a little for those who do not have"...can't WAIT till the Dems start telling me what doctor I can go to and when..

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Executive Branch

The power of the executive branch is vested in the President, who also serves as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. The President appoints the Cabinet and oversees the various agencies and departments of the federal government.

Legislative Branch

The legislative branch of the federal government consists of the Congress, which is divided into two chambers -- the Senate and the House of Representatives. Each member of Congress is elected by the people of his or her state. The House of Representatives, with membership based on state populations, has 435 seats, while the Senate, with two members from each state, has 100 seats. Members of the House of Representatives are elected for two-year terms, and Senators are elected for six-year terms.

Article I, Section 1, of the United States Constitution, provides that:

* All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Article I, Section 7, of the Constitution provides in part that--

* Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it becomes a Law, be presented to the President of the United States.

If the President approves the bill, he signs it and usually writes the word "approved" and the date. However, the Constitution requires only that the President sign it.

Veto Message

By the terms of the Constitution, if the President does not approve the bill "he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it". A bill returned with the President's objections, need not be voted on at once when laid before the House since the vetoed bill can be postponed, referred back to committee, or tabled before the question on passage is pending. A vetoed bill is always privileged until directly voted upon, and a motion to take it from the table or from committee is in order at any time.

Once the relevant Member moves the previous question on the question of override, the question is then put by the Speaker as follows: "Will the House on reconsideration agree to pass the bill, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding?" Under the Constitution, a vote by the yeas and nays is required to pass a bill over the President's veto. The Clerk activates the electronic system or calls the roll with those in favor of passing the bill answering "Aye", and those opposed "No". If fewer than two-thirds of the Members present vote in the affirmative, a quorum being present, the bill is rejected, and a message is sent to the Senate advising that body of the House action. However, if two-thirds vote in the affirmative, the bill is sent with the President's objections to the Senate, unless that body has acted first, together with a message advising it of the action in the House.

The procedure in the Senate is the same as a two-thirds affirmative vote is also necessary to pass the bill over the President's objections. If the Senate joins the House and votes two-thirds in the affirmative to pass the bill, the measure becomes the law of the land notwithstanding the objections of the President, and it is ready for publication as a binding statute.

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/lawsmade.toc.html


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