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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 12:00 am |
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I gotta agree with you there. The Unions have done alot for my family.......
weasle wrote:
i know the (liberal media )quotes stories of union abuse. ( or is that conservative media) ?. point being made is that in every day life , dave ,with a union you would not be facin the delema you now face. !you would have severance pay , or a chance to transfer to a different facility in your company. dont want to start a bitch session , but in my opinion, corperate america is taking over and dictating how we work and for how much, a loss of incentive for some one out standing ,in what ever is their field of expertise. j m h o.
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weasle
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 11:48 pm |
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| i know the (liberal media )quotes stories of union abuse. ( or is that conservative media) ?. point being made is that in every day life , dave ,with a union you would not be facin the delema you now face. !you would have severance pay , or a chance to transfer to a different facility in your company. dont want to start a bitch session , but in my opinion, corperate america is taking over and dictating how we work and for how much, a loss of incentive for some one out standing ,in what ever is their field of expertise. j m h o.
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zippo
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 10:34 pm |
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| I always thought some cops were jackoffs LOL
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marc
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 10:27 pm |
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| Well ain't life a bitch......That is absurd....
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 09:40 pm |
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Porn-Surfing Parole Officer Gets Job Back, Raise
POSTED: 4:52 am PST January 26, 2006
MADISON, Wis. -- A porn-surfing Michigan parole officer is getting his job back -- with a raise, too.
Thomas DeLeon was fired in 2004, after computer logs showed he was surfing the Internet for about four hours a day. The records also show he was visiting X-rated Web sites while on the job.
His union appealed, saying firing was excessive for a first-time offense.
But an arbitrator has ruled that Department of Corrections policy mandated light discipline for a first time offense, not firing. The arbitrator said DeLeon should have received a one-day suspension.
The arbitrator said there were 10 similar cases with corrections employees and none was terminated.
Officials of the department say they're stunned by the ruling. But DeLeon is getting to return to old his job, along with an automatic pay raise and $45,000 in back pay.
http://www.nbc4.tv/technology/6459667/detail.html
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Dave
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 05:47 pm |
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Randy in Pensacola wrote:
Dave,
Wasnt it just 2 years ago that you were in college? LOL
Yeah... So, what's your point?
LOL...
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zippo
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 05:22 pm |
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| Sexual Harrassment, ain't that what youth and college is about?
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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 05:05 pm |
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Dave,
Wasnt it just 2 years ago that you were in college? LOL
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 04:42 pm |
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Hey Dave, I'm like you.. that's one problem I've never had to deal with either, LOL..
I'm thinkin'- I believe I could probably deal with a problem like that maybe if not to extreme a case of sexual harassement, and maybe even kinda like it right? We're sick individuals aren't we.. HHahhahahaaa!
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Dave
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 04:05 pm |
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Damn, I feel cheated. Never got my fair share of harrassment during college.
I wonder who I complain to?
I wonder if I could complain with a straight face?
I wonder if the person I was complainin' to could keep a straight face?
Sounds like sexual discrimination to me. Men aren't getting their fair share of Sexual Harassment...
Sexual Harassment Routine, College Students in Poll Say
Many Cases Unreported, Survey Finds
By Susan Kinzie
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 25, 2006; Page A02
Sexual harassment is common on campus, according to a national online survey by the American Association of University Women released yesterday, with 62 percent of college students saying they had received a comment or gesture they found inappropriate.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/24/AR2006012401540.html
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empty
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:51 pm |
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Dave wrote: Saw this on the news last night. Couldn't tell if this little cross-dresser was male or female. Looked more like a 14 or 15-year old girl than a guy. Voice sucked too. The only comment they showed was where the black guy asked it if it was male or female...
GLAAD Accuses 'Idol' Judges' Of Being Homophobic
POSTED: 7:15 am PST January 24, 2006
UPDATED: 9:00 am PST January 24, 2006
A gay rights group said "American Idol" has crossed a line.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation is criticizing comments by judges Simon Cowell and Randy Jackson on last Tuesday's show.
Cowell told one male contestant to "wear a dress." Jackson asked another, "Are you a girl?"
A statement from the group said the "real offense" is the producer's decision to make a "contestant's gender expression into the butt of a joke."
"GLAAD is reaching out to the show's producers to discuss our concerns and the concerns of community members and allies who have contacted us about this matter," said Damon Romine, a spokesman for GLAAD, in a statement published on the group's Web site.
The spokesman for GLAAD added that the two-way talks will continue with the show's network, Fox, which GLAAD hopes "will be a productive, ongoing conversation about the show's representation and discussion of sexual orientation and gender expression."
Fox isn't commenting.
More than 35 million viewers tuned into the premiere of the show's fifth season.
http://www.nbc4.tv/irresistible/6397785/detail.html
You can see the whole thing here: http://www.wimp.com/cross/
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Dave
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 11:05 am |
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Saw this on the news last night. Couldn't tell if this little cross-dresser was male or female. Looked more like a 14 or 15-year old girl than a guy. Voice sucked too. The only comment they showed was where the black guy asked it if it was male or female...
GLAAD Accuses 'Idol' Judges' Of Being Homophobic
POSTED: 7:15 am PST January 24, 2006
UPDATED: 9:00 am PST January 24, 2006
A gay rights group said "American Idol" has crossed a line.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation is criticizing comments by judges Simon Cowell and Randy Jackson on last Tuesday's show.
Cowell told one male contestant to "wear a dress." Jackson asked another, "Are you a girl?"
A statement from the group said the "real offense" is the producer's decision to make a "contestant's gender expression into the butt of a joke."
"GLAAD is reaching out to the show's producers to discuss our concerns and the concerns of community members and allies who have contacted us about this matter," said Damon Romine, a spokesman for GLAAD, in a statement published on the group's Web site.
The spokesman for GLAAD added that the two-way talks will continue with the show's network, Fox, which GLAAD hopes "will be a productive, ongoing conversation about the show's representation and discussion of sexual orientation and gender expression."
Fox isn't commenting.
More than 35 million viewers tuned into the premiere of the show's fifth season.
http://www.nbc4.tv/irresistible/6397785/detail.html
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Dave
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 02:45 am |
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Zippo - Gotta agree with ya . But, it's not just labor/management...
The pendulum has swung way over to one side. It's gonna head back eventually.
Would be nice if it would land in the middle somewhere though and stay there for awhile...
Carl - Been through that once. Went to work, gainfully employed on Thursday, Friday I was out on the street... No parachute package then for me either.
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zippo
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 03:40 pm |
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Carl wrote: I have been "laid off" several times in my life. I have never been able to make it over 8 years at a company. I never reached 3 weeks vacation. When I got "laid off" it was a result of company wide cutbacks because of "business conditions" It had nothing to do with "age" or "salary" or anything other than business conditions.
I received my final check, a kick in the ass, and an escort to my car. No funny money, no lay off subsidies.......just "we have to let you go"
As for auto workers........robotics can stick a cigarette lighter in a socket for years at the fastest production line speed. The best robot would not cost $23.00 an hour to do that job. Auto workers are experiencing are experiencing what many factory workers have over the past 15 years. Question I have is how many workers does a Jap car need to assemble, and how many workers does ford an GM have?
As for auto companies pointing the finger to the cost of materials: I don't know of anyone that seeks out business at the car companies, as you got to wrap a dollar around anything shipped to them.
Cars.........to me they are just transportation tools. I don't get a hard on over a Cad, Lexus, or any tool for that matter. I buy the least expensive transportation tool to accomplish the task. When the asshole tosses his door open and dents my transportation tool I don't get to excited.
Auto worker unions...........time for them to disappear and go the way of the hatmakers union. Is there a meatcutters union? If so, please go away too......I don't need to pay 25% more a pound for beef to feed the union machine.
Paper worker unions...CU too.............Mail handlers.....C'mon, you too please leave. AFSME..........yeah, goverment workers need a union like the boys club needs a priest.
What is a union for in 2006 when the economy is global? I must be sleeping.
I figure union/management thing is like a pendulum, the unions had gotten to strong and now it will swing the other way for a while. When managemnet gets to strong, then back it will come.
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Abo
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 01:04 pm |
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jeffy ole boy wrote:
Dave wrote: Incredible... Yeah that is incredible.. The second paragraph below just amazes me totally! What name do they expect chaplains to pray in? Islamic?? for crying out loud! This country was constituted on the belief in Jesus Christ, not Islamic, or other belief. They need to stop questioning everything that's right! Period.
Military Chaplains Need More Freedom, Rep. Says
POSTED: 3:05 pm PST January 23, 2006
GREENVILLE, N.C. -- The congressman who's been urging President George W. Bush to issue an executive order allowing military chaplains to pray as they see fit now says a simple phone call will do.
Rep. Walter Jones says hundreds of chaplains have told him that they've been discouraged by their superiors from praying in Jesus' name. Chaplains are trained to offer general prayers.
Jones said he told White House domestic policy adviser Claude Allen that as commander-in-chief all the president has to do is pick up the phone and tell Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that he wants restrictions on chaplains' prayers to stop.
The North Carolina Republican said that after talking to Allen, he's hopeful that Bush will issue that order by next week.
http://www.nbc4.tv/family/6377042/detail.html
Hey man. This country was founded with "THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION" excuse me. AboLast edited on Tue Jan 24th, 2006 01:07 pm by Abo |
jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 01:01 pm |
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Dave wrote: Incredible... Yeah that is incredible.. The second paragraph below just amazes me totally! What name do they expect chaplains to pray in? Islamic?? for crying out loud! This country was constituted on the belief in Jesus Christ, not Islamic, or other belief. They need to stop questioning everything that's right! Period.
Military Chaplains Need More Freedom, Rep. Says
POSTED: 3:05 pm PST January 23, 2006
GREENVILLE, N.C. -- The congressman who's been urging President George W. Bush to issue an executive order allowing military chaplains to pray as they see fit now says a simple phone call will do.
Rep. Walter Jones says hundreds of chaplains have told him that they've been discouraged by their superiors from praying in Jesus' name. Chaplains are trained to offer general prayers.
Jones said he told White House domestic policy adviser Claude Allen that as commander-in-chief all the president has to do is pick up the phone and tell Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that he wants restrictions on chaplains' prayers to stop.
The North Carolina Republican said that after talking to Allen, he's hopeful that Bush will issue that order by next week.
http://www.nbc4.tv/family/6377042/detail.html
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Abo
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 12:36 pm |
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Dave wrote:
You're 100-percent correct Randy. It all goes back to the old "Labor/Management" thing...
Everything we pay for has an "Overhead" cost built into it. I don't care what it is, you're paying an overhead cost. You know that (and everyone else that owns their own business). Your customers pay for your lights, water, trash, tools, equiptment, rent, etc. One of those goes up, you raise your prices. Give an employee a raise? Eventually, you raise your prices to cover it. You're not in business for yourself to lose or throw away money. No one is and no one expects you to.
We all pay for it, in any and all goods and services we buy or pay for.
Hey man. We have a local INDY with his tee shirs that say "WE CHEAT THE OTHER GUY TO PASS THE SAVINGSb ON TO YOU ....LOL Also has one that say "DON'T LIKE OUR PRICES BRING IN YOU OLD LADY AND WILL DICKER".. LOL
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Carl
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 12:34 pm |
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I have been "laid off" several times in my life. I have never been able to make it over 8 years at a company. I never reached 3 weeks vacation. When I got "laid off" it was a result of company wide cutbacks because of "business conditions" It had nothing to do with "age" or "salary" or anything other than business conditions.
I received my final check, a kick in the ass, and an escort to my car. No funny money, no lay off subsidies.......just "we have to let you go"
As for auto workers........robotics can stick a cigarette lighter in a socket for years at the fastest production line speed. The best robot would not cost $23.00 an hour to do that job. Auto workers are experiencing are experiencing what many factory workers have over the past 15 years. Question I have is how many workers does a Jap car need to assemble, and how many workers does ford an GM have?
As for auto companies pointing the finger to the cost of materials: I don't know of anyone that seeks out business at the car companies, as you got to wrap a dollar around anything shipped to them.
Cars.........to me they are just transportation tools. I don't get a hard on over a Cad, Lexus, or any tool for that matter. I buy the least expensive transportation tool to accomplish the task. When the asshole tosses his door open and dents my transportation tool I don't get to excited.
Auto worker unions...........time for them to disappear and go the way of the hatmakers union. Is there a meatcutters union? If so, please go away too......I don't need to pay 25% more a pound for beef to feed the union machine.
Paper worker unions...CU too.............Mail handlers.....C'mon, you too please leave. AFSME..........yeah, goverment workers need a union like the boys club needs a priest.
What is a union for in 2006 when the economy is global? I must be sleeping.
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 12:13 pm |
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Incredible...
Military Chaplains Need More Freedom, Rep. Says
POSTED: 3:05 pm PST January 23, 2006
GREENVILLE, N.C. -- The congressman who's been urging President George W. Bush to issue an executive order allowing military chaplains to pray as they see fit now says a simple phone call will do.
Rep. Walter Jones says hundreds of chaplains have told him that they've been discouraged by their superiors from praying in Jesus' name. Chaplains are trained to offer general prayers.
Jones said he told White House domestic policy adviser Claude Allen that as commander-in-chief all the president has to do is pick up the phone and tell Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that he wants restrictions on chaplains' prayers to stop.
The North Carolina Republican said that after talking to Allen, he's hopeful that Bush will issue that order by next week.
http://www.nbc4.tv/family/6377042/detail.html
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 11:54 am |
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You're 100-percent correct Randy. It all goes back to the old "Labor/Management" thing...
Everything we pay for has an "Overhead" cost built into it. I don't care what it is, you're paying an overhead cost. You know that (and everyone else that owns their own business). Your customers pay for your lights, water, trash, tools, equiptment, rent, etc. One of those goes up, you raise your prices. Give an employee a raise? Eventually, you raise your prices to cover it. You're not in business for yourself to lose or throw away money. No one is and no one expects you to.
We all pay for it, in any and all goods and services we buy or pay for.
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