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 Posted: Sun Jan 29th, 2006 12:32 pm

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Go granny, GO!

Grandmother Accused In Connection With Shooting

POSTED: 6:14 pm PST January 28, 2006
UPDATED: 6:34 pm PST January 28, 2006

LAKE FOREST, Calif. -- An 82-year-old woman allegedly shot the father of her great grandchild Saturday when he came to see his 18-month-old daughter on a court-ordered visit, authorities said.

The shooting happened at about 10 a.m. Saturday at the woman's home in the 25000 block of Coral Wood Street in Lake Forest, said Orange County sheriff's Lt. Hayward Miller.

Miller said the man, in his mid 20s, was hospitalized in serious condition.

The man had come with his parents to see his 18-month-old daughter on a court-appointed visit and was talking with his ex-wife and her grandmother on the woman's porch while waiting for a court monitor to arrive when the shooting occurred, according to broadcast reports.

The woman was in custody Saturday night on suspicion of attempted murder, authorities said.


http://www.nbc4.tv/news/6541214/detail.html

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 07:58 pm

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I guess we learned this tactic from them... 


Documents Show Army Seized Wives As Tactic

By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent

The U.S. Army in Iraq has at least twice seized and jailed the wives of suspected insurgents in hopes of "leveraging" their husbands into surrender, U.S. military documents show.

In one case, a secretive task force locked up the young mother of a nursing baby, a U.S. intelligence officer reported. In the case of a second detainee, one American colonel suggested to another that they catch her husband by tacking a note to the family's door telling him "to come get his wife."

The issue of female detentions in Iraq has taken on a higher profile since kidnappers seized American journalist Jill Carroll on Jan. 7 and threatened to kill her unless all Iraqi women detainees are freed.

The U.S. military on Thursday freed five of what it said were 11 women among the 14,000 detainees currently held in the 2 1/2-year-old insurgency. All were accused of "aiding terrorists or planting explosives," but an Iraqi government commission found that evidence was lacking.

Iraqi human rights activist Hind al-Salehi contends that U.S. anti-insurgent units, coming up empty-handed in raids on suspects' houses, have at times detained wives to pressure men into turning themselves in.

Iraq's deputy justice minister, Busho Ibrahim Ali, dismissed such claims, saying hostage-holding was a tactic used under the ousted Saddam Hussein dictatorship, and "we are not Saddam." A U.S. command spokesman in Baghdad, Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, said only Iraqis who pose an "imperative threat" are held in long-term U.S.-run detention facilities.

But documents describing two 2004 episodes tell a different story as far as short-term detentions by local U.S. units. The documents are among hundreds the Pentagon has released periodically under U.S. court order to meet an American Civil Liberties Union request for information on detention practices.

In one memo, a civilian Pentagon intelligence officer described what happened when he took part in a raid on an Iraqi suspect's house in Tarmiya, northwest of Baghdad, on May 9, 2004. The raid involved Task Force (TF) 6-26, a secretive military unit formed to handle high-profile targets.

"During the pre-operation brief it was recommended by TF personnel that if the wife were present, she be detained and held in order to leverage the primary target's surrender," wrote the 14-year veteran officer.

He said he objected, but when they raided the house the team leader, a senior sergeant, seized her anyway.

"The 28-year-old woman had three young children at the house, one being as young as six months and still nursing," the intelligence officer wrote. She was held for two days and was released after he complained, he said.

Like most names in the released documents, the officer's signature is blacked out on this for-the-record memorandum about his complaint.

Of this case, command spokesman Johnson said he could not judge, months later, the factors that led to the woman's detention.

The second episode, in June 2004, is found in sketchy detail in e-mail exchanges among six U.S. Army colonels, discussing an undisclosed number of female detainees held in northern Iraq by the Stryker Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division.

The first message, from a military police colonel, advised staff officers of the U.S. northern command that the Iraqi police would not take control of the jailed women without charges being brought against them.

In a second e-mail, a command staff officer asked an officer of the unit holding the women, "What are you guys doing to try to get the husband — have you tacked a note on the door and challenged him to come get his wife?"

Two days later, the brigade's deputy commander advised the higher command, "As each day goes by, I get more input that these gals have some info and/or will result in getting the husband."

He went on, "These ladies fought back extremely hard during the original detention. They have shown indications of deceit and misinformation."
The command staff colonel wrote in reply, referring to a commanding general, "CG wants the husband."
The released e-mails stop there, and the women's eventual status could not be immediately determined.
Of this episode, Johnson said, "It is clear the unit believed the females detained had substantial knowledge of insurgent activity and warranted being held."

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 06:37 pm

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Our 30 legistaltive session started a few days ago. This is from the ABATE folks



Everyone,

As you know the legislative session has begun, don't forget this it s a 30 day session, so a lot has to be done in a short amount of time. And we have some work to do.

The bills that we need to be concerned with are HB 60 and HB 65 they are the criminal street gang bills. You are asking why should this matter to me they are going after the street gangs and this is a good thing. Well the answer is yes and no. What should trouble you the most is section C of the HB 65 it states ""criminal street gang" means an ongoing organization, association or group of three or more persons, whether formal or informal, having a common name or identifying sign or symbol" this is also stated in HB60. Do you relieze that any group that dresses a like could potentially be considered a gang. We need to stop these bills. This means making some phone calls, or sending a couple of e-mails asking your representatives to vote NO.
Attached are copies of both House Bills please read them over. I am also attaching contact names and numbers of each Representitive and Senator that sits on the committees these bills will be headed to. Please contact them and ask them to vote NO. Tell them it has to do with the definition of a street gang.

Thank you for your time and effort.
Barbara Alvar
NMMRO - Chairman
ABATE of NM - Designated Lobbist
NMCOC - Designated Lobbist



I can see this one being easily abused...

All it takes is 3 guys in a crowd wearin' their officially licensed "Harley Davidson" T-Shirts... falls into that definition of a "Gang"...

By the way Zippo - What state? I've found all sorts of wierd things relating to HB 60 & HB 65...

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 06:17 pm

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jeffy ole boy wrote: Interesting!   I guess a club all wearing Black leather would be an example right of a street gang?  As in the story below about the Legislative 30th meeting..

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 06:12 pm

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Interesting!   I guess a club all wearing Black leather would be an example right?

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 06:10 pm

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Dave wrote: No comments from me on this one... LOL...

'Biggest Loser' Tryout Canceled Due To Unruly Crowd
Restaurant Says Casting Call Was 'Unsafe'

POSTED: 6:57 am PST January 27, 2006

SAN DIEGO -- Tryouts for "The Biggest Loser" in San Diego turned out to be a big bust for applicants on Thursday.

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Hopefuls showed up at the Dave and Buster's in Mission Valley, and many were angered when the event was canceled.
Some reporters sense of humor no doubt!

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 06:08 pm

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Our 30 legistaltive session started a few days ago.  This is from the ABATE folks

 

Everyone,
 
As you know the legislative session has begun, don't forget this it s a 30 day session, so a lot has to be done in a short amount of time.  And we have some work to do.
 
The bills that we need to be concerned with are HB 60 and HB 65 they are the criminal street gang bills.  You are asking why should this matter to me they are going after the street gangs and this is a good thing.  Well the answer is yes and no.  What should trouble you the most is section C of the HB 65 it states ""criminal street gang" means an ongoing organization, association or group of three or more persons, whether formal or informal, having a common name or identifying sign or symbol" this is also stated in HB60.  Do you relieze that any group that dresses a like could potentially be considered a gang.  We need to stop these bills.  This means making some phone calls, or sending a couple of e-mails asking your representatives to vote NO.
Attached are copies of both House Bills please read them over. I am also attaching contact names and numbers of each Representitive and Senator that sits on the committees these bills will be headed to.  Please contact them and ask them to vote NO. Tell them it has to do with the definition of a street gang.
 
Thank you for your time and effort.
Barbara Alvar
NMMRO - Chairman
ABATE of NM - Designated Lobbist
NMCOC - Designated Lobbist

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 06:00 pm

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jeffy ole boy wrote: I was glad to see that key phrase.. "sex with a woman"  inplace of " sex with a dog" LMAO..   still a bad dude for committing such an offense!   Get a noose and hang him.   Guess the noose may be a bit extreme in this case!  

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I was glad to see that key phrase.. "sex with a woman"  inplace of " sex with a dog" LMAO..   still a bad dude for committing such an offense!   Get a noose and hang him. 

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Just have to love this headline this morning. I'm in one of those moods that find "alternative" meanings...

Animal Shelter Supervisor Accused Of Unlawful Sexual Conduct

Makes ya wonder if he's doin' something with the critters don't it?

And as they say, "Here's the rest of the story..."


http://www.nbc4.tv/news/6476351/detail.html

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 05:45 pm

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No comments from me on this one... LOL...

'Biggest Loser' Tryout Canceled Due To Unruly Crowd
Restaurant Says Casting Call Was 'Unsafe'

POSTED: 6:57 am PST January 27, 2006

SAN DIEGO -- Tryouts for "The Biggest Loser" in San Diego turned out to be a big bust for applicants on Thursday.

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Hopefuls showed up at the Dave and Buster's in Mission Valley, and many were angered when the event was canceled.

Nearly 1,000 people lined up outside the restaurant where auditions were scheduled, but the doors never opened. The company that produced the casting call reportedly didn't provide crowd control or outdoor bathrooms.

Witnesses said that the restaurant canceled the event, blaming what they said was an unruly crowd.

Some applicants disagreed.

"I traveled 1,200 miles, took time off to come down here, and [it was] canceled for no reason, no good explanation, no nothing," said Dina Garcia. "Where's our chance to be skinny?"

Although "The Biggest Loser" is a program that appears on NBC, the show has its own production company.

The producers had representatives at Dave and Buster's on Thursday morning and are now trying to reschedule the event.

For its part, representatives from Dave and Buster's confirmed to NBC San Diego that they did cancel the event because they were concerned about the safety of their employees and the crowd. The restaurant also issued a statement after the cancellation:

"Providing a safe environment for our guests and team members is always Dave and Buster's first priority. Unfortunately, the situation this morning was not safe despite out very best efforts to make it so. We regret that the event had to be canceled."

A hot line has been set up at (310) 727-3307 for information about the postponed casting call. Representatives are trying reschedule the casting call in San Diego this weekend. Another casting call is scheduled for Feb. 11 in Los Angeles.


http://www.nbc4.tv/entertainment/6495044/detail.html

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 04:20 pm

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This was going to happen...

US watches China's rising star with anxiety

Top US officials, recognizing China's growing influence, say they are trying to persuade Beijing to act as a "responsible actor" on the world stage amid disagreements and rivalry between the two powers.

With China's rising star dominating the World Economic Forum in Davos, US representatives sounded a note of apprehension about Beijing's diplomacy.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said it was up to Washington and other powers to encourage China to act as a "stakeholder" in the international arena and not merely pursue its own economic interests.

"Now, the rise of China is something we don't only take note of, but we believe that there is an obligation by all of the powers, but perhaps particularly the United States, to engage in policies that will encourage ... the responsible stakeholder China, the China that sees it has an obligation in the international system to promote and, in fact, to defend peace and security," Rice said Thursday in a video conference at the Davos event.

"China is, after all, one of the permanent five members of the Security Council," Rice said.

Washington has been lobbying China to set aside its economic appetite for oil and back calls for Iran to be referred to the UN Security Council over its nuclear program.

A crucial meeting on the issue is set for February 2 when the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) convenes in Vienna.

But as the world's second biggest consumer of oil, China has remained reluctant given Iran's vast oil and gas reserves.

Deputy Secretary of State Robert Zoellick, who has been meeting Chinese officials this week, said that Beijing was not "taking the exact same route as the US" on the Iranian nuclear issue.

According to Rice, Beijing has played an important role in six-party talks with North Korea. This indicated that China "understands that it has a crucial role to play in not just commenting on security but actually promoting a more secure environment," she said.

As one of the biggest importers of raw materials from Latin America, China has made its mark in a region previously dominated by Washington.

China has signed a free trade agreement with Chile and brokered deals with Venezuela focused mainly on oil.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a vehement critic of the United States, sought to align his government with China when he said he rejected Taiwan's independence.

Bolivia's new leftist president, Evo Morales, travelled to China soon after his election victory, seeking to forge economic ties for his impoverished country with major natural gas reserves.

During his visit, Morales said that China was a "political and ideological ally of the Bolivian people."

In Africa, China's economic influence has raised concerns in Washington.

US Assistant Secretary of State for African affairs Jendayi Frazer recently expressed regret that China's investments in Africa have focused exclusively on raw materials.

"Certainly when you look at where China has invested its resources in Africa, it's primarily in oil-producing countries and the other place is in South Africa," Frazer said.
"So one would hope that China's investment would be broader and that it would contribute not only to China's development and growth, which is at such a high pace ... but it would also contribute to Africa's growth and development."

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2006 02:36 pm

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Randy in Pensacola wrote: Dave wrote: The former coca leaf farmer Thats why he dont need the money...........LOLMy thoughts exactly....

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Dave wrote: The former coca leaf farmer Thats why he dont need the money...........LOL

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Wow..  we ought to get him to run for President over here next term. LOL    Our gov't should take a few lessons from that.

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Maybe our folks in political office should take a lesson from this...


Bolivia leader halves his own pay
The Bolivian new left-wing President, Evo Morales, has cut his salary by more than a half to a little over $1,800 (£1,012) per month.

The decision means that the salaries of all Bolivian public sector employees will be reviewed, as no official can earn more than the president.

Mr Morales said the money saved would be used to increase the numbers of doctors and teachers.

Mr Morales suggested that members of Congress should cut their salaries too.

During the campaign, Mr Morales had pledged to halve his own pay if elected.

The move announced after his first cabinet went beyond that, with a cut of 57%.

BBC South America correspondent Daniel Schweimler says many voted for Mr Morales believing that he was different from the more conservative politicians who have governed in the past.

The former llama herder and coca leaf farmer was inaugurated last Sunday as Bolivia's first indigenous president.

He has promised to fight corruption, introduce a new tax on the wealthy, and renationalise energy companies.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/4652940.stm

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Abo wrote:
Hey Man. Dave. You sure dont convince any of us. Its you that is in deneyal. NO rear brakes. No air. job is on the fritz. Live on a Fault I guess ya want to be "THE LAST MAN STANDING". GET THE FUCK OUT MAN. Abo

LOL...

That's my plan Abo, that's my plan...

But, I'm gonna ride the job out until I can't no more. Finally got the OL considering Kentucky or Tennessee...

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Hey Man. Dave. You sure dont convince any of us. Its you that is in deneyal. NO rear brakes. No air. job is on the fritz. Live on a Fault I guess ya want to be "THE LAST MAN STANDING". GET THE FUCK OUT MAN. Abo

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Another reason to get out of Kalifornia...

State Adds Secondhand Smoke To List Of Toxic Air Pollutants
Air Resources Board Reaches Unanimous Decision

POSTED: 4:52 pm PST January 26, 2006
UPDATED: 6:44 pm PST January 26, 2006

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- California became the first state to declare secondhand smoke a toxic air pollutant Thursday, putting tobacco fumes in the same category as diesel exhaust, arsenic and benzene because of its link to breast cancer.

The unanimous decision by the state Air Resources Board relied on a September report that found a sharply increased risk of breast cancer in young women exposed to secondhand smoke. It also links drifting smoke to premature births, asthma and heart disease, as well as other cancers and numerous health problems in children.

"If people are serious about breast cancer, they have to deal with secondhand smoke. That's what this is all about," said Dr. Stanton Glantz, director of the Center for Tobacco Control, Research and Education at the University of California, San Francisco.

"This is a seminal, international document," Glantz said. "It's impossible to underestimate what a big deal this is."

The report by scientists at California's Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment drew on more than 1,000 other studies of secondhand smoke and blamed the fumes for 4,000 deaths each year in California from lung cancer or heart disease alone.

The most significant new finding cited by state officials is that young women exposed to secondhand smoke increase their risk of developing breast cancer between 68 percent and 120 percent. The disease kills about 40,000 women in the United States each year.

That conclusion conflicts with a 2004 report by the U.S. Surgeon General. Sanford Barsky, a researcher writing on behalf of the R.J. Reynolds tobacco company, told the board the state report "either ignores mentioning or does not give the appropriate weight" to studies refuting a link between secondhand smoke and breast cancer.

California scientists say their research is more current than the Surgeon General's report. The state report went through an exhaustive review that delayed its release for nearly a year but ensures it is based on sound research, said Dr. John Froines, director of UCLA's Center for Occupational and Environmental Health and head of the scientific review panel.

R.J. Reynolds spokesman David Howard said regardless of the dangers from passive smoke indoors, no research supports regulators' decision to declare it an air pollutant.

"No studies exist that show that exposure outdoors leads to any increased risk of tobacco-associated illness," he said.

The air board must next consider regulatory steps to reduce exposure, a process that could take years.

"This is no longer some crazy, California, Left Coast way of thinking," said Cynthia Hallett, executive director of Berkeley-based Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights. She cited smoking bans that have been enacted or are being considered across the nation and in other countries. No? What is it then?

Much of the initial effort in California will focus on public education, said Paul Knepprath, vice president for government relations at the American Lung Association of California.

The association unsuccessfully sought legislation in 2003 that would have banned smoking in motor vehicles containing young children, and could try for a similar law next year, Knepprath said.

The group also might seek nonsmoking floors or wings in apartment buildings, much as hotels offer smoke-free areas, he said.

"People live in apartments all across California who are exposed to secondhand smoke on a daily basis," Knepprath said. "It drifts from a common area or another apartment."

That could one day force regulations requiring separate ventilation systems for smoking and nonsmoking apartments, he said.

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weasle wrote:
i know the (liberal media )quotes stories of union abuse. ( or is that conservative media) ?. point being made is that in every day life , dave ,with a union you would not be facin the delema you now face. !you would have severance pay , or a chance to transfer to a different facility in your company. dont want to start a bitch session , but in my opinion, corperate america is taking over and dictating how we work and for how much, a loss of incentive for some one out standing ,in what ever is their field of expertise. j m h o.

I don't know Weasle...

I'm not represented by a union anymore. But, I do get a pretty decent severance package. Somewhat similar to those that management in the auto plants get. I am also looking at the possibility of a transfer to another facility sometime possibly in the near future...

But, I've worn the other guys shoes. I was UAW for 15 years. The problem is, if the work ain't there, they lose their jobs, same as any other job. In the case of the UAW auto workers in the article, they do have a decent severance package. I'm all for it.

Management didn't "Build" Ford, GM or Chrysler. Those were built on the labor of the employees. The unions have a place. But, they also need to grow with (not against) a company in order to survive in today's economy..


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