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jeffy ole boy
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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 11:58 pm

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Yeah these fuely tc's do run hot.  Funny thing my blacked out TC -which has a cv carb runs cool.  Has a good  2 into 1 Bub exhaust and a good breather.  Even when its 100 out - you can touch the heads and their not piping hot.   Last of the easy to tune bikes, LOL!

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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 12:36 pm

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id be carefull jeff if those plugs are white  its runnin hot . mine turned white  when i had  the  intake gasket  leak  a couple of yrs ago , to much  air  not enough gas , new gaskets cured the problem ,your getting the same indication of leaness just a different cause.the tc ,s run a lot hotter than  my evo  so any thing  adding to  the running hot isnt good.:(

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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 11:46 am

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Dave wrote: I gotta agree with Weasle...

But, that don't mean it ain't worth a shot. He can always put the stock air cleaner back on it.

Or, he can learn that "HD" really stand for "hundred dollars" an' keep doin' things to make it run better, $100.00 at a time...
Naw Dave I been around longer than that ..  Thats why we did the work ourselves. LOL!   We have not bought a new breather or pipes... May have to get a tuner worse case scenario if it turns out to be running too hot,.  Gonna pull the plugs and ck em out.  Should be a chocoloate color- not white we're hoping.  Checked his plugs last nite the front cyl plug was white the rear was almost white.   I read where the fuels today burn quite clean. So the big thing to look for is blistering...  Didn't see any of that yet.  Just gonnna watch it.  Its not pinging or missing.. So thats good.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 5th, 2011 01:24 pm

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Right on Weas.... I just called Manns HD in Columbus, IN.  They have a good service dept reputation.    I was just curious what they thought about what the boy did.  I told him the baffles' have been removed,  but its running good.  He said pull the plugs.  IF they're white its too lean.  He recommended the SE tuner if it needs richened up.    Still running the stock breather.   He suggested leaving it alone.  Would just make it leaner if we opened it more....   BUt yeah , worse case scenario would have to get a power commander or similar tuner if it turns out the bike is running too lean.   So far so good...:cool:

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 Posted: Wed Oct 5th, 2011 12:39 pm

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jeff  like dave said  ya better have the loot  if ya wanna fool with  the tc,s . most of the guys i know that have done serious  mods to their tc  buy  a power commander 3  thay aint cheap but  the give you the capability  to  change  your  settings no matter how many times ya change things , much better  than a reflash  from hd  imho.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 5th, 2011 09:59 am

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I gotta agree with Weasle...

But, that don't mean it ain't worth a shot. He can always put the stock air cleaner back on it.

Or, he can learn that "HD" really stand for "hundred dollars" an' keep doin' things to make it run better, $100.00 at a time...

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 Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 12:56 pm

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more air going in  will change  your  fuel air mixture jeff, im guessin  it will be  a leaner mixture leading to  popin  and  running hotter . just my 02  aint into tc,s :D

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 Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 12:21 pm

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Thanks men for the expert opinions...  I need your thoughts on this,  since it is running fine with the guts out of the stock pipes, which really amazes me...  His bike currently has just the stock breather set up... Do you think if he puts on a more open air filter set up that that may effect the FI tuning ?   Have always been told... If if runs good leave it alone, lol!

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 Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 10:00 am

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the preacher wrote:
Best breather on the market for flow is the S&S style. Also, that curved front thing is no good in the rain, unless it is just a sprinkle. Friend had one even with the sock, still drowned in a hard rain at speed.

You can get the S&S style to fit just about any carb. Check Jireh.
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S&S also makes a replacement tear-drop filter housing with slots in the forward edge and I also believe that they have it machined/trimmed a bit in the same area. It isn't as "deep" as a standard filter housing. Exposes more of the filter to the elements. But, the claim is more horsepower...

I got a spare housing. Maybe one of these days I'll drill an' trim it...

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 Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 12:31 am

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Best breather on the market for flow is the S&S style. Also, that curved front thing is no good in the rain, unless it is just a sprinkle. Friend had one even with the sock, still drowned in a hard rain at speed.

You can get the S&S style to fit just about any carb. Check Jireh.
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 Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 06:56 pm

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Talk about luck..  My boy took off his stock mufflers, big ole suckers,  took out the baffles and to my amazement it sounds good no popping, backfiring..  Sounds good.  Took it up the road runs fine.   I told him your lucky!   I said don't change a thing..

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 Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 02:43 pm

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weasle1 wrote:
sounds right marc , i think with the  tc,s anything other than screamin eagle  you gotta mess with the black box ? just keep him away from those  kuryakin  butter fly  air cleaners jeff  their a waste of money .:shock:

Yup...Black Box ECM which runs your EFI is set for EPA specs which are very lean to say the least...The minute I changed my air filter and pipes things went to hell...Not like a carb where you can turn a screw or two...I got a PowerCommander III and had it re-tunned...

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 Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 01:14 pm

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Dave wrote: My 2-cents, I think it would probably breathe better without the fancy cover on it. Just an open element...Your right Dave... A K&N open filter for example..  Right on.  Seems like it would suck water if raining.. However, there is some sorta sock that fits over the element if ridin' in the rain thats supposed to keep water out of the intake.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 10:22 am

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My 2-cents, I think it would probably breathe better without the fancy cover on it. Just an open element...

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 Posted: Sun Oct 2nd, 2011 08:01 pm

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sounds right marc , i think with the  tc,s anything other than screamin eagle  you gotta mess with the black box ? just keep him away from those  kuryakin  butter fly  air cleaners jeff  their a waste of money .:shock:

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 Posted: Sun Oct 2nd, 2011 02:06 pm

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Probably have to re-flash/stage 1 too...

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 Posted: Sat Oct 1st, 2011 08:03 pm

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The boy wanted to get one of these are similar for his WG.  Mostly just for looks, but is what he likes..  And some V&H big radious pipes will mak'r breathe and sound alot better..



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