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Dave
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 Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2009 12:27 pm

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No problem Steve, I'll let ya know if I don't use it.

But, I'm pretty sure I will...
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 Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2009 12:22 pm

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Dave wrote: Well, I picked up the Wide-Glide yesterday and ordered the 16-inch Apes (none in stock) The forks are set up for single disc, 1999 and earlier caliper. So, I can use one of my old calipers on it. (Save a few bucks there)

The front end ended up costin' me a bit more than $350.00. (closer to $450.00)

But, it also came with the stem nut, new neck bearings, dust caps and the riser bushings too.

Still need a few more pieces...
Dave even at $450 is was still a steal and if you don't end up using it let me know, I have an 88 FXR that I'm putting together that would look great with that front end.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2009 12:17 pm

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Well, I picked up the Wide-Glide yesterday and ordered the 16-inch Apes (none in stock) The forks are set up for single disc, 1999 and earlier caliper. So, I can use one of my old calipers on it. (Save a few bucks there)

The front end ended up costin' me a bit more than $350.00. (closer to $450.00)

But, it also came with the stem nut, new neck bearings, dust caps and the riser bushings too.

Still need a few more pieces...

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 12:11 pm

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The tubes & sliders are assembled, just add oil & assemble the legs to the trees...

He's throwin' in the axle and master-cylinder as freebies...

The reason I wanna change my bars Steve, is the ones I have now are for a narrow-glide. The center section between the uprights(?) is real narrow. They wouldn't look right on a wide-glide. Plus, they're 12-inches tall. I think 16-inch apes would look & feel a little better...

I figgered I'd go to a standard set of 16-inch apes. It's gonna be a PITA. All my wires are internal and I'd need new cables for the clutch & throttle. (Could be a perfect chance to go to a hand-shift/foot-clutch set up too)

With a single disc, I could clean up my front brake line a bit. I've got a hard line from the master cylinder to the bottom of the top tree, then it goes to a stainless braid down to a "T" under the bottom tree and then splits to the calipers.

With a single disc, I could run the hard-line most of the way down to the caliper...

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 11:59 am

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Dave from what I can remember the front end is as close to a bolt on as you can get. I believe the distance between the upper and lower trees is the same.  The stops will work and If my brain is working this morning the stem size is the same. You will need a need style TC type front caliper and master cylinder. Don't try and use the old Evo master with the new TC 4 piston caliper it doesn't move enough fluid at speed to work.  And yes a FB front end minus the cans is pretty ugly. A complete wide glide front end for $350.00? Trees, tubes, sliders, assembled?....let me know about that one I might have to buy that for a project I'm working on if you don't jump on it. Your handle bars shuold work the spacing between the risers is the same on most of the models except for the ones with fairings.........................................

 

PS: you will be amazed how much more crap that 16" wheel will kick up in your face without a fender...you will be sand blasted before you make it home.........LOL

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 11:44 am

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Thank guys...

Well, I've been givin' the Fatboy front end some serious thought and had a few concerns. Like are the trees raked? Will the Steering stops work with my frame? Simple, yet important issues...

So, I talked to the indy about it yesterday, he asked me "Why don't you just buy a new front end from me?"

I never mentioned the price to him and asked what a new one would cost.

He has brand-new, all chrome, wide-glides, including the axle, set up for a single disc for $350.00. Since I'm currently runnin' dual-discs, he'll toss in a good, used (Take-Off) master-cylinder for it. The lowers are set up for the same calipers I have now...

He also showed me the difference between the Fatboy and a "normal" wide-glide. Looks to me that you gotta run the tins on the Fatboy or it just don't look right. They cover a pretty ugly gap between the legs and the top of the lowers. (The trees aren't raked and the steering stops will work)

Then I'd basically need to decide what size & type front tire/wheel I want, new (wider & taller) bars, a head-light & front fender. I'm really leanin' towards the 16-inch... ;)

He's got several used front wheels (spokes & mags) and a couple of pretty good lookin' 16-inch tires. I've got a 9-spoke mag in the back, laced in the front right now. So, either would work...

We've got very little rain lately, so the fender can wait awhile if necessary...

So, its possible that I could put this all together for a decent price.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 07:55 pm

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not sure dave but i think preacher mentioned a co  that would make  neck bearings  that would work or a adaptor of some  type  sleve meby ??

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 03:36 pm

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Dave wrote: I sorta thought along the same lines Empty...

I remember my pop makin' a stem for a guy years ago on the lathe we had in the garage. I don't know what neck the guy was using. But, he was building a VW-trike with a wide-glide front end...

Thanks...
After I took out the front end on my old Neval by hitting an antelope, I found an old Honda 450 front end and turned some bushings to make it fit. It really wasn't that big of a project.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 03:24 pm

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I sorta thought along the same lines Empty...

I remember my pop makin' a stem for a guy years ago on the lathe we had in the garage. I don't know what neck the guy was using. But, he was building a VW-trike with a wide-glide front end...

Thanks...

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 01:25 pm

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Dave wrote: have a line on an almost complete front end from a 2001 Fatboy. It comes with the tins & front axle. No mention of the electrical stuff or what type of brakes it is set up for (Single or dual disc) I've sent an email to the seller asking the same questions that I'm asking here. Just looking for more input...

Anyone have any idea what it will take to use it on my 1987 FXR? I want to use it with a 16-inch front tire/wheel which will also mean a new/different front fender.

I will also need to change my bars. They are 12-inch apes for a narrow-glide (center section is pretty narrow) So, I'll probably also be swapping them out for 16-inchers...

I know that brakes will be an issue. But, can anyone tell me what else I might have problems with? Neck bearing size? Turn Stops? Etc...
With access to a lathe, anything can fit anything.  I would think neck bearing size and length should be the only things that would be of issue.  I am pretty sure the dyna 'fat bob' uses a fat boy front end.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 01:03 pm

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have a line on an almost complete front end from a 2001 Fatboy. It comes with the tins & front axle. No mention of the electrical stuff or what type of brakes it is set up for (Single or dual disc) I've sent an email to the seller asking the same questions that I'm asking here. Just looking for more input...

Anyone have any idea what it will take to use it on my 1987 FXR? I want to use it with a 16-inch front tire/wheel which will also mean a new/different front fender.

I will also need to change my bars. They are 12-inch apes for a narrow-glide (center section is pretty narrow) So, I'll probably also be swapping them out for 16-inchers...

I know that brakes will be an issue. But, can anyone tell me what else I might have problems with? Neck bearing size? Turn Stops? Etc...


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